Thanks, I hate it. If you go to school for CS and have to work with people that go through boot camp programs like this, it is a pain. They are elevated script kiddies that don't understand what they are doing. You are going to create a bunch of people that have such limited skill sets that they can be readily outsourced. What happens when technology changes? Will they have the perspective and skills to adapt? This is actually a nightmare. People in a tight spot will inevitably be lured in by the pay, then find themselves beholden for two years? Honestly, screw you scheming silicon valley wraiths. You don't care about the well being of people and just look to manipulate people into building your fortune.
One of the things we try to filter really hard for is demonstrated interest in software, which usually means they've been learning on their own for while or sometimes it's a degree in a technical field, but not cs per se. The really big push during our time isn't going to put them into senior-level positions (for the current program) but we think the program can kickstart their life of learning.
A company is trying to bait people in rough financial situations for what amounts to be one semester of college and 2k in exchange for 15% of their gross income for two years. I'm revolted by the concept and said my piece. At what point is it fair, and necessary, in your mind to express ones extreme discontent for what is posted?
For what it's worth, I appreciate you not censoring me and letting my post get handled fairly by letting the users decide where my comment should be.
I'm almost never negative on HN, but I know something like this is going to be a hell on at least a few people's lives.
Well, the thing is, a lot of people have extreme discontent about a lot of things. If everyone's allowed to simply blast theirs into the commons, HN will degenerate into a war of all against all. That isn't theoretical, it's empirical. We see it over and over again. The whole point of this place is to prevent that, so interesting conversation remains possible.
Therefore, the social contract here is that we all need to contain our discontents and express them in a factual, neutral way. I know that's not easy, believe me. But it's the skill we all need to learn together, if we're to have an internet community that doesn't burn itself to a crisp. That's a worthwhile thing to try for, don't you think?
So you are making all things equal and there is no point that you would agree one must break from sterile neutrality and admonish one for doing things that will clearly be a nightmare on peoples lives?
2k + Equivalent to free content = 15% of gross income for two years.
All things are not equal, and this isn't a software library or news article, these are peoples lives.
Let's try this a different way. If you can't make your points without attacking people, you can't post here, and doing it repeatedly will get you banned. Please follow the site guidelines from now on.
This is the only time I've spoken about a user negatively like this in all my years on HN. I've made my points in hundreds of comments without attacking people. So I think I can follow your orders boss. Sorry for speaking out against an egregious campaign boss.
I understand, and I know you are right. I'm just frustrated with the state of things and how people try to do the best they can to live, grab what seems to be a helping hand, but it turns out to be a foot stomping them down further. I will will be more formal and neutral in the future. Sorry for taking your time.