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That’s the problem with anthropomorphising companies.

As far as I can tell Cloudflare single-handedly destroyed the usability of Tor Browser. It was just getting pretty fast when Cloudflare put literally half the Internet behind a spywall.

So should I be angry at them? Should I dismiss this valuable service to then remain consistent with my anger? Is Microsoft now “good” or “bad”?

Every action needs to be evaluated on its own. Our evolutionary social adaptation just doesn’t work in this case.

In the end all Cloudflare did is expose how centralized the Internet has become. The immediate emotion is anger because that is how you react when you’re suddenly awakened out of blissful ignorance and forced to face reality.




Just as your Tor browsing experience was becoming faster, it was becoming a more and more viable tool for DoS attackers. Someone has to protect the sites enough that they can stay up for traffic, Tor or otherwise.


There are many ways to do that are more efficient, less intrusive and provide for better UX than Cloudflare’s gatekeeper approach. However no one forced website owners to use Cloudflare, so it doesn’t matter.

> Someone has to protect the sites enough that they can stay up for traffic, Tor or otherwise.

That’s true for HTTP. You need a big corporate sponsor to allow you to host your website. Too bad when they don’t like what you have to say, right?[1]

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/opinion/cloudflare-daily-...




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