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> It will take a few nights, but they'll soon realize bed-hopping is not accepted.

Honest question: why is this not accepted? Maybe it’s because I didn’t grow up in the West (I’m from Eastern Europe) where we didn’t have that much real estate space and as such us, kids, didn’t have “our own rooms” to sleep in, but I’ve turned out to be a quite a well functioning adult even though I shared my bed with both my parents and with my grand-parents (when my parents were “shipping” me in the winter to live with them). In fact, the very nickname which I’m using on this website reminds me of one winter when I was 7 or 8 and I was watching a Soviet TV show based on a Jules Verne book at my grandparents’ house in the Carpathians. I remember that it was aired each Tuesday night, I was watching it while I was in the same bed with my peasant grandpa’, my brother was in the other bed in the same room with my grandma’, there was nothing wrong with it, it didn’t even crossed anyone’s mind that would be something wrong with it, to this day those moments remain some of the most important in my life. I get that lots and lots of stuff gets sexualised in the States and in the West generally, I guess this is where this phobia against kids sharing beds with adult relatives comes from, but it wasn’t always like this, and saying that letting a kid sharing a bed with a adult parent or close relative is wrong goes against most of our history as a species.



Most practical reason: because as a parent who wants a good night's sleep, it's beneficial to train your kids to sleep well also. :). (And also because good sleep habits - by which I mean being able to fall asleep in your own bed without needing elaborate rituals or snuggling with a parent - are useful for life.)

Really, I think it's mostly about getting them used to the sleeping arrangements you want to have. If they're going to bed share until six, great, let them stay. But if you have them in their own room, teach them to sleep that way.

Note that doesn't mean no snuggling and reading. It just means that when it's time for sleep, learn to sleep in your target bed.

With infants, which doesn't apply to the GP, the current recommendation is to sleep in the same room but separate bed, to minimize the chance of getting squished or suffocated.


>Most practical reason: because as a parent who wants a good night's sleep, it's beneficial to train your kids to sleep well also

I think it would be good to get some evidence here that describes that sleep is most beneficial in the circumstances you are describing.


> learn to sleep in your target bed.

Children aren't NPCs in a video game, tho.

Edit: Apparently they are. My mistake.


> why is this not accepted?

Possibly a poor choice of words on my part. My comment had nothing to do with sexualisation (that didn't even cross my mind), but purely from the point of view of sleep hygiene for both parent and child.

Being able to go back to sleep by oneself is essential to good sleep, and something that people who didn't learn as a young child can struggle with into adulthood.

For the parent it can interrupt their sleep, as the GP mentioned. For someone who already has sleep difficulties, this isn't ideal.


FWIW: After I taught my kids to sleep in their own beds both my health and their mood improved.

YMMW but I was starting to get ill after not sleeping a full night for months.

Emphasis on taught because while we knew we had to teach or kids to eat and walk it never occured to me I had to teach them to sleep.


Don't worry, whenever parenting advice comes up on HN I'm often as surprised as you are now.


When kids are babies there's a concern about things like the covers suffocating them at night

Later it's more of a practical thing -- the bed's small enough already without a wriggling 4 year old!




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