Well I'm not sure that many people without a first would seriously consider doing a PhD, so this isn't relevant in most cases.
> DTCs (doctoral training centres) now mostly run 3 + 1 programmes
Right, which is a big disadvantage of them. DTCs are just one way to do a PhD and they're not the traditional approach in the UK.
> In short, you've mischaracterised doctoral education in England and Wales
I don't agree! This matches from I see of students going into and coming out of the system today.
Well I'm not sure that many people without a first would seriously consider doing a PhD, so this isn't relevant in most cases.
> DTCs (doctoral training centres) now mostly run 3 + 1 programmes
Right, which is a big disadvantage of them. DTCs are just one way to do a PhD and they're not the traditional approach in the UK.
> In short, you've mischaracterised doctoral education in England and Wales
I don't agree! This matches from I see of students going into and coming out of the system today.