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Every day self driving car is not tested in real life environment is a day self driving technology delayed and a day worth of hundreds of human lives.

If anything, we are morally obliged to double down.




Yes, we're obliged to double down. On safety. The Uber self driving cars are known to be unsafe around pedestrians. Or another way of saying it "people walking". Or just "people". Like you and like me. I had one try to run me down in the crosswalk (utterly failed to yield to pedestrians in the crosswalk) while Uber was running their ill-fated test in San Francisco. I walked into their offices on Harrison and asked to file a bug report. They laughed it off. Saw the exact thing happen a couple days later. They need to stop till they can figure it out how to do it safely.


Absolutely not. Current data point at self driving car being more dangerous than human driven cars. Double down in real environment testing and you’ll expose the public to increased danger until software becomes good enough - you’re basically telling random people to share publicly the risks so other people in the future may or may not be safer while private companies profit from the fruit of the research and, sincerely, screw that: public test should start after controlled testing proves the system to be at least not more dangerous than the status quo and the companies should use testers that opt in and are adeguately compensated for their liabilities to injuries instead of killing off random bystanders for the “greater good” which in trith is how they name their pyroll savings


When considering whether they're net saving lives we are now doing so from the starting point that self driving cars presently have a worse fatality record per real world mile driven than humans, including the portion of miles driven by humans who are unfit to drive or wilfully reckless.

Self driving cars can also be tested in real life environments with safety drivers behind the wheel whose own driving shortcomings are unlikely to coincide with software error. This is believed from the OEM's own telemetry to have prevented several accidents with early generation Waymo (Edit: and apparently one was present in this vehicle and was unable to prevent the accident)

Of course, there's a PR benefit of taking the drivers out of the car at this stage of their development, and it appears this has taken priority...




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