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I see the Waymo cars while I walk to lunch (AZ) quite often. One time while walking through the crosswalk a Waymo turning right cut me off as I started into the crosswalk despite my having the walk indicator. This seems to be a very difficult scenario for a self-driving car as there are often people at the corner that are either crossing the other direction or just waiting on the corner. I sent them a note via their feedback link, but never heard back.



This is a non trivial situation for human drivers, too, when I am on a bicycle or driving a car I have to wait and look at the pedestrian until I am sure of their intention. That seems like a very difficult problem in that a lot of times people are on their phone or watching a child or dog, I often have to slow to a standstill and speak to people to ask them what they are planning on doing.


Indeed. Right on red is unsafe for pedestrians. I guess at least the requirement to stop before turning helps ensure the speed of impact has minimal consequences.

As a driver, there are certain heuristics, e.g. did my traffic light just go red, or is the pedestrian signal/traffic light in the same direction about to go green.


I think the situation was been right on green, which I argue is more dangerous for pedestrians.

The answer is to do what denser European cities do, which is to have pedestrian crossing signals have their own turn while all vehicle lights are red.




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