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These are technicalities that are not important at this specific moment or applicable to the argument.

The important part is that T-Mobile is not one of the companies that want to destroy net neutrality.

Your fight may be just, but it’s for a later time, when net neutrality is saved.



> The important part is that T-Mobile is not one of the companies that want to destroy net neutrality.

T-Mobile gets free press and gets to publicly swipe at AT&T and Verizon (the big gorillas in the mobile data space), but what they are doing is called "zero-rating" which isn't very different from violating the principles of Net Neutrality.

The difference between data that is accessible versus partner data (NN) is that is gratis to access (zero-rating) isn't that much if you can barely afford your cell phone bill (which is about 50% of the US population if surveys about financial savings are to be believed).


I proved to you that T-Mobile is violating net neutrality and you respond with "T-Mobile is not one of the companies that want to destroy net neutrality"

You don't seem to understand what net neutrality means, but you're not alone, it seems like few do.


I didn’t say you are wrong, you are absolutely right; binge on is violation of NN.

I am just disagreeing on the timing; is it is a fight to fight another day, since T-Mobile is not actively pushing FCC to revoke NN.


Why would you recommend that people protest NN repeal by switching to a service provider that you claim is "pro net-neutrality" despite the fact that they built and delivered a product that is in violation of NN?

My theory is that your understanding of what NN means doesn't line up with what the law says.


Not everything is black and white.

You have a service provider A that is actively trying to repeal NN.

You have a service provider B that is not trying to repeal NN, but as you "proved" violated "net-neutrality".

Switching to SP B, it shows that you don't want NN repealed.


> These are technicalities that are not important at this specific moment or applicable to the argument.

These technicalities are important, because they represent the bulk of the question: "what is NN?"

Also, the FCC rules from 2015 don't even apply to mobile carriers...


That is not correct. The 2015 order does in fact apply to wireless carriers:

https://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/201...

pp. 9-10:

Consistent with the 2010 Order, today’s Order applies its rules to the consumer-facing service that broadband networks provide, which is known as “broadband Internet access service” (BIAS) and is defined to be: A mass-market retail service by wire or radio that provides the capability to transmit data to and receive data from all or substantially all Internet endpoints, including any capabilities that are incidental to and enable the operation of the communications service, but excluding dial-up Internet access service. This term also encompasses any service that the Commission finds to be providing a functional equivalent of the service described in the previous sentence, or that is used to evade the protections set forth in this Part.




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