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It’s actually illegal in most locations to run commercial servers on your home electric line.


It might be against terms of service, but I very much doubt it's illegal.

Ten minutes of Googling shows nothing about running servers from my home being illegal.

How would they know you're hosting a server? I mean, practically speaking a server is just a computer you leave running 24/7.

Please could you provide some evidence of your statement, otherwise I don't think it's quite true.


For example Austin, you have different bills if you use it for residential or commercial:

https://austinenergy.com/ae/residential/rates

https://austinenergy.com/ae/commercial/rates


Did you just really link a power utility bill rating to say it's illegal to run a computer?

Son, what?

It is not illegal anywhere to run a computer as a server. In fact a computer that serves data, is a server. If you've ever hosted a file on your computer or sent one, you're a server. Ever had a Facebook messenger call or uploaded a picture, you're a server.

Geeeez.


I am just arguing that you have different rates if you use your electricity as resident or use it as a commerce. It's not about servers. It's contradicting the point of the OP that every bits of electricity is treated the same.


Except it's not. Commercial vs. residential electricity really is about load profiles (which correlate with costs) and simply are a simplified method of capturing the load you put on the grid. Ultimately, they don't care whether you are actually a residential or a commercial customer, and they also don't care what you use the electricity for, all they really care about is the load you put on the grid throughout the day. If you manufacture gadgets in your basement with a load profile like a residential user, they would rather have you as a residential customer.


What is the difference between a residential load profile and a commercial one?


Well, "commercial" really usually encompasses a whole range of different kinds of contracts depending on the specifics of the load, and there usually are also multiple categories for residential loads, but in the most common case it's simply a matter of the time of day and day of the week that electricity is used.

Commercial use in this general sense is relatively flat throughout the day with little use during night, whereas the residential load profile has peaks in the morning and in the evening with little use late at night and during working hours--it's simply a profile of the average load of a typical household throughout the day vs. the profile of the average load of a "typical business".

Of course, this "typical business" mostly matches offices and retail, industrial users usually have different load profiles, or, for that matter, no real load profile at all, in the sense that they pay based on peak power, not based on energy used, which in effect is an incentive to keep the power profile as flat as possible. Though deviations from that are possible in the form of load shedding, for example, where the utility company can remotely switch off some machinery in the factory to reduce load during peak demand times in exchange for cheaper electricity (this is typically employed with stuff like heating or cooling where it's easy to build your system in such a way that hour long interruptions here and there simply don't matter--your cold storage will stay cool enough even if you stop actively cooling it for an hour, for example).

The overall point is: The utility company doesn't really care what you use the energy for. They don't care whether you produce luxury cars or cheap gadgets. If you are willing to have the lighting in your offices switched off remotely during peak load times, they will happily sell you such a contract for your office building. If you insist on operating your aluminum smelter 24/7, you can have that, though it's going to be expensive. What they care about is the load on their grid and generation facilities, not what you use the energy for.


Massive usage 9am-5pm, minimal before and after


There is no need for the condescending "Son, "-style discourse here.


The part of their sentence where they wrote "commercial" was important. As in "for commercial purposes".


Well, if your home internet connection's TOS prohibits running servers then it could be a CFAA violation. It would involve exceeding the allowed access (of the ISP's routers) of a computer involved in interstate commerce (the ISP's router is almost certainly used to buy things across state lines, someone has gone to Amazon or such).


> It would involve exceeding the allowed access (of the ISP's routers)

That's quite a stretch. You, the server hosting customer who pays for internet access, aren't "exceeding the allowed access". Your website visitors are accessing your server. If there's a thundering herd, the ISP is allowed to protect it's network accessibility (IIRC Comcast did this and the FCC lost a lawsuit against them[1] afterwords).

Typically ISPs care more that you are actually abusing the expected bandwidth of your connection (thus deteriorating service quality for your neighbors and eating into your ISP's profits), not that you are running a server at all. Every time you have to open a pinhole in your home router, you are "running a server" of a sort.

I'm an advocate for the principles of Net Neutrality and to clarify the vagueness of CFAA, but I don't have a clue how to implement them.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comcast_Corp._v._FCC




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