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> Especially now that iOS 11's wifi-off button in the control center no longer actually disables the radio

I still can’t belive this decision. I keep my Bluetooth and Wi-Fi off as much as possible and it’s now difficult to to as a result of this change is ios11. Really bothers me.




I really don’t understand why people keep those two off. If you’re not using them they use very little battery at this point; it’s not like it was 10 years ago.

Since Apple keeps detailed usage statistics (from the people who opt in) my guess is they know how common such a behavior is and it’s obviously low enough they don’t think this change is a problem.

I agree with some of the other comments I’ve seen that this probably accomplishes what the user is trying to do (ignoring a Wi-Fi network that’s temporarily behaving poorly) and possibly protecting them (forgetting to turn it back on it running up a huge cell bill). I know I’ve heard complaints from people who accidentally did that a number of times.


I keep it off because as I ride a train it's connecting to every station wifi and losing it just as quick, completely breaking connectivity.


Turn off "ask to join" and it will only connect to known networks.


The station wifi is known though, so when I have a long wait for a train at a station I'm not burning data on YouTube


You can set the known network not to connect automatically. But you can only access that setting when you are in range.


I didn't know about that setting, thanks for the tip. Will definitely come in handy.


I keep it off because of exploits posted in this article.


I can.. it makes those buttons much more useful for the common case. e.g. this wifi network isn't working, disconnect.. and not forget to reconnect later. I did that often.

And also being hassled about location services not working, etc.

You can still actually disable both through the settings up, just not with the quick access.


Apple's explanation of why they did this. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208086


Thanks, their description is interesting. It’s not quite as bad as I thought.


This is a bad take. If your threat model has you concerned about people who follow you around and exploit your Wi-Fi firmware, you probably shouldn't ever have Wi-Fi on -- or maybe you shouldn't be using a smartphone.

For everyone else, the new behavior allows users to disconnect from bad Wi-Fi in Control Center while improving their battery life in case they forget to turn Wi-Fi back on.


Is it really that difficult to use? C'mon... Just force touch it instead of regular touching and you get the same control as before.


Am I missing something? Force touch doesn't do anything except show a bigger control with all the radio settings. There is no option to disable wifi, you still have to go to the settings.


Lots of devices don't support force touch, for example all iPads, and iPhone 5s, 6 and 6plus.


Faraday cage cases are going to be popular next season.


Just go into Settings and disable it as usual.


Or just place it in Airplane Mode and enable Wifi or Bluetooth selectively. At least that's what I do in iOS 10. I hope it's still possible in 11.


Doesn't airplane mode disconnect the cellular radio?




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