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You must be from the valley if you think that a 1000 phone is economical. That is laughable.


It's a defensible position, I live in the EU so proximity to heaps of expendable income is not as abundant than in the US middle-class. In the UK we had a saying "the poor man pays twice", meaning that if you buy a shitty rake and it breaks you have to go buy a new one.

This is kinda the case with phones too, you can buy a $450 phone with 2 years of updates, or a $700 with 5 years.

Which one is more economical over time?


False dichotomy. I just bought an Android phone over the weekend for $35 (on sale from $50) -- the LG K3. It has an older Android OS (Marshmellow) a little slow, the screen resolution isn't great, and the keyboard input is a little more fiddly than my Nexus 5X (which bricked, which is why I needed to get a new temp phone), but otherwise it works just fine.

Six years ago I paid $170 for an equivalent phone (older version of android than current, slower, less ram, space, etc). On sale. And used it for almost a year and a half. So the low-end has really gone down in price.


OK, but how long did you receive patches after the purchase?

I'm talking mainly about phone support not whether it continues to function on a basic level or not.


I mean I just bought the new one last weekend so it's too soon to tell. Google Play Services got updated again this morning, though.

The previous phone I think it was most of the time I owned it, but I didn't get any major OS upgrades (nor did I expect to), just minor updates.

It got slower over time but it never bricked, unlike my fancy new Nexus 5X, which completely bricked after I owned it for a year and a few months. Who cares about security updates and software patches when your phone completely breaks in less than the average upgrade cycle (obviously I don't mean all of these phones do, but apparently it was a common problem with Nexus 5X, I found out after the fact. I have a coworker on his 3rd one in two years).


> you can buy a $450 phone with 2 years of updates, or a $700 with 5 years.

> Which one is more economical over time?

My sub-100USD android apparently. What the heck kind of math do you have going on for "economical?"


Talking in terms of years of support.

$450 / 2 = $225/y of support.

$700 / 5 = $140/y of support.


Plenty of cheap but great Androids in the $200-300 range, just take a look at the Moto G5 Plus, for example.


Which, in the absolute best of cases, get security updates for one or two years, while the equivalent iPhone does for 4 or more. That's what he means by paying twice.




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