>"holdouts" that want to use plugins? Such luddites!
Yes. These "plugins" are making your page heavy and wasteful and I hate browsing websites made by these "luddites" because they're slow and annoying and probably selling my information to advertisers.
>It's in your cache because it's useful; at least your concede that it is likely to be in a user's cache, in which case the added page weight is 0.
It's not like the browser caches the entire JavaScript JIT output. There is a performance impact and more importantly there's a cognative impact from having to use jQuery to interact with Bootstrap on top of whatever sane library (or lack thereof) you're using for everything else.
>Seeing as my argument was so terrible, I'd think you'd have an easier time forming a substantive reply, vs the struggle we see here.
What sort of substantiation do you think I'm missing?
>I don't really understand the value added in your personal attacks.
I didn't issue personal attacks, I attacked your argument. I have no commentary about you as a person leaving aside this one issue I disagree with you on.
>All? Everything you notably had to add in this comment?
What, answers to your questions? Cool it down bud. I assumed from the outset that you didn't actually believe jQuery was a good library but rather that you thought it was acceptable for Bootstrap to use it. If we really need to go over why jQuery is a shitty library, well, see the link you responded to in the first place.
>$(div).modal()? I'm ok with that level of cognitive impact.
Not just $(div).modal(), but compounded with the fact that everything else is going to be using something other than jQuery. You're probably using React or Angular or something similarly less stupid than jQuery, and you will have pain points everywhere the two systems have to touch.
>So the "people like you" was entirely impersonal? Forgive my misunderstanding.
Yes, "people like you" who think jQuery is still a good idea in 2017.
You've been thoroughly corrected already. If you insist on receiving every attack on your argument as a personal slight, then that is your prerogative. But please, leave the rest of us out of your nonsense.
>If you insist on receiving every attack on your argument as a personal slight
Compared to this overt oversimplification, I don't. I addressed the attacks on my argument as such. I made no mention of a personal attack until it was presented, and if you scan the rest of my comments on the thread you can see I didn't "receive every attack" that way; your generalization is easily and instantly proved false.
I identified a single personal attack, "PEOPLE like YOU" as such, and the owner of the attack agreed with me ("thoroughly corrected", in your words).
I suspect you know this of course, but tried to misrepresent my objections anyway. Please, leave the rest of us out of your nonsense.
Yes. These "plugins" are making your page heavy and wasteful and I hate browsing websites made by these "luddites" because they're slow and annoying and probably selling my information to advertisers.
>It's in your cache because it's useful; at least your concede that it is likely to be in a user's cache, in which case the added page weight is 0.
It's not like the browser caches the entire JavaScript JIT output. There is a performance impact and more importantly there's a cognative impact from having to use jQuery to interact with Bootstrap on top of whatever sane library (or lack thereof) you're using for everything else.
>Seeing as my argument was so terrible, I'd think you'd have an easier time forming a substantive reply, vs the struggle we see here.
What sort of substantiation do you think I'm missing?
>I don't really understand the value added in your personal attacks.
I didn't issue personal attacks, I attacked your argument. I have no commentary about you as a person leaving aside this one issue I disagree with you on.