Hi, I'm the founder of Docker. That is very surprising and absolutely not OK. I'm sorry that you experienced this. Could you contact me directly at solomon@docker.com to give me more details?
There is no animosity towards kubernetes, quite the contrary. We are working with the kubernetes community to integrate the individual components of Docker, so that everyone can reuse each other's code and ideas.
For example:
- we're actively working on a containerd+CRI integration.
- there's great technical discussions about supporting CNI in SwarmKit
- we are participating in the early CSI (common storage interface) discussions along with the Mesos and Kubernetes communities.
- we are discussing the possibility of participating in the Kubernetes secrets implementation work, since we invested a lot in SwarmKit secrets and some of that work could be reused, or at least discussed for reference.
In short: no animosity. Not sure what happened to you at Dockercon but we will look into it.
Thanks for responding. There really isn't many more details other than that. It was in DockerCon Seattle in the space needle. I don't remember who the employee was. I did generally get the feeling that Docker employees felt at least wary or worse about k8s. That was from more than just that once situation, but from multiple interactions I had over the conference with employees. I only pointed out that one interaction because it made me certain that at least that employee was more than wary.
I'm happily using Docker and it was a good conference otherwise.
>I did generally get the feeling that Docker employees felt at least wary or worse about k8s.
I'm no k8s fanboy (and I have the comment history full of replies from annoyed k8s contributors to prove it), but it's because they know that Kubernetes is going to end them. It relegates Docker to a swappable implementation detail.
There is no animosity towards kubernetes, quite the contrary. We are working with the kubernetes community to integrate the individual components of Docker, so that everyone can reuse each other's code and ideas.
For example:
- we're actively working on a containerd+CRI integration.
- there's great technical discussions about supporting CNI in SwarmKit
- we are participating in the early CSI (common storage interface) discussions along with the Mesos and Kubernetes communities.
- we are discussing the possibility of participating in the Kubernetes secrets implementation work, since we invested a lot in SwarmKit secrets and some of that work could be reused, or at least discussed for reference.
In short: no animosity. Not sure what happened to you at Dockercon but we will look into it.