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Startups: Poverty is Underrated. Be Glad That You’re Not Rich (techcrunch.com)
44 points by edw519 on June 5, 2010 | hide | past | favorite | 14 comments



I know this isn't the point of the article by any means, but the first sentence (Raising millions of dollars from VCs is still the tech entrepreneurs’ dream.) bothers me a bit. I don't know about anyone else, but my dream is to run a profitable company, and how I get there has no bearing. Am I in the minority here?


99.99% of tech entrepreneurs don't have the resources to build and scale a technology company to profitability. It's HARD. It's expensive. A very small number of ideas can be brought to market for free, scaled in your off-time until the magical day that you can quit your day job. Some ideas require a team of people, and teams are very hard to get/keep for free.

So yeah, raising money is a dream of a lot of people so that they can set aside their day job and focus on the company that they want to build. The deeper motivations might be to build a profitable company, to get to a liquidity event, to get rich, to change the world, or just to create something that they want to exist...

One dream does not preclude the other.


I agree that in a lot of cases, raising money is the best way to get somewhere. The problem is that sites like Techcrunch often treat raising money not as a means to an end, but as an end in itself.


This is because on techcrunch raising money is considered more important than having a product/service that is actually making money.


What's wrong with that? I read TechCrunch (and other startup blogs) mainly so I know what companies are getting funding. This is relevant for partnering, consulting, and to scope out competition.


I agree with you completely and share the same dream. Having millions of dollars with which to build a corporate giant for some hotshot executives will surely distract me from doing what I really love, which is building things. Running a small company that is just profitable enough for me to maintain a comfortable lifestyle while I get to do what I love will make me infinitely happier.

You're certainly not alone.


I wouldn't be glad. I'd be anxious and frustrated. But that _would_ motivate me to work harder. Or to take a hard, honest look to see if what I'm doing makes sense. Not having much money also means low expectations from others and mental freedom to do something outrageous.

The Chinese have a saying "fighting with your backs to the river" that originated from the Battle of Jingxing around 205 B.C.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jingxing In that battle the general Han Xin organized his troops against a river, with no prospect of retreat. Apparently it focused their fighting abilities immensely.

From the wikipedia article: At the feast after the battle, Han Xin's officers, still somewhat incredulous at their own good fortune, inquired into the rationale for the astounding deployments. Han Xin explained that as he was commanding a ragtag army and he was not a general of high renown, he had to resort to such drastic measures to force everyone to fight hard. This led to the saying "You achieve survival by fighting from a position of certain death (置之死地而後生)"


Well, not sure it's that black-or-white but at least one should know that bringing in venture capital takes _a lot_ of time and effort. Scarce resources that will then not be used to get customers or finish up your product.

One should also know that, even though most VCs say they "invest in the team", what you're doing is selling a very specific path to profitability, a path that will be much harder to change once you have investors on board.

So you lose time, effort and flexibility.

Of course you gain a lot too, but it's easy to be blinded by all the money. It is not free.


Whatever you have be glad. It is a rare and precious thing to be born a human being.


No. Poverty is overrated.

It sounds like his argument for "poverty" is that investors micromanage and sink companies. The obvious solution is hands-off VC and more trust of entrepreneurs. In other words, we need to move away from a culture in which VCs are high priests and entrepreneurs (unless they've "completed an exit") are seen as unwashed beggars.

Also, investors can be a pain in the ass if you're funded; most people know at least one entrepreneur who was sunk or scumbagged by a bad investor. They can also be a pain in the ass if you're not; getting them is a miserable endeavor I wouldn't wish on anyone, and although someone who hasn't invested in you can't fire you, obviously, he can black-ball you (investors talk to each other).

And a founder is far more likely to drive a company toward profitability if he’s is about to lose his life’s savings.

Meh. I don't disagree at a 180-degree tack-- maybe 160. I think "the stick" is a pretty bad motivator overall, and when people get panicked, they make bad decisions. Everyone's different, but in the aggregate, people perform better if the potential personal loss is reduced; that's much of why limited liability exists. This is true in small as well as large companies. We all know that small companies tend to be more innovative, but that's in spite of the small company's insecurity, not because of it.

Capital starvation leads to innovation. Slim bank accounts are the best way to motivate sales people. So don’t worry if you think you don’t have enough capital. Instead, be grateful for your sense of urgency.

Disagree. Bad financial situations and anxiety lead people to take greater risks and make decisions that it's harder to make in a "cozy" corporate job, not because comfort leads to mediocrity but because the corporate strings often hamstring or extinguish greatness.

Sometimes those risky decisions turn out to produce results that are really good for the person making them, and for society. Sometimes the results are terrible. On the whole and for most people, "the stick" is not a very good and definitely not a very productive thing. Exceptions exist-- final fantasies that produce something great (actually, Final Fantasy was so-named because it was produced by, and actually saved, a dying game company)-- but those are rare.

Don't get me wrong: startups are great, but I think the poverty and urgency are necessary evils of the game, not benefits. We need startups in this economy, because what was once accomplished by blue-sky R&D (which doesn't exist anymore) is now increasingly done by startups, which are acquired if successful.

Also, don't get me started on urgency. Bosses in large companies play the "urgent" card with artificial deadlines all the time, so a lot of people work under a state of urgency. Does the OP have an idea how many millions, if not billions, of lines of absolutely terrible code have been written in the name of urgency?


I'm paraphrasing someone, but I can't find the quote right now. Basically:

If a fruit grows in a blight, you don't give credit to the blight.


I think "the stick" is a pretty bad motivator overall

Totally agree. Isn't one of the imputed advantages of American entrepreneurship over, say, European, that founders don't lose everything (money, social standing) when they fail? This article seems to be claiming the opposite.


great comment but +1 for sharing the bit about Final Fantasy that I had never heard before.


Wow. Written like somebody who has never actually been poor. How disgusting




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