Do you mean the old Java crap, like https://netbeans.org/images_www/screenshots/...

scrollaway · on Nov 17, 2016

Funny, Java, using the default UI widgets, always looks a lot closer to this on my system:

https://i.stack.imgur.com/9UwJK.png

pron · on Nov 17, 2016

The screenshots are of the default widgets. The only question is which is the selected look-and-feel (for the "old" Swing toolkit), or the style sheet (in the new JavaFX).

geodel · on Nov 17, 2016

No need to go further, just look at jconsole bundled with latest Java. It looks like crap to me.

pron · on Nov 17, 2016

jconsole is a very old, discontinued program, but it looks alright to me: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ji9hahszxttpetx/jconsole.png?dl=0

The newer bundled jvisualvm also looks fine: https://www.dropbox.com/s/549exowkau3ry3t/jvisualvm.png?dl=0

kalleboo · on Nov 17, 2016

creshal · on Nov 18, 2016

Yes. Both look ugly and not even close to native.

pron · on Nov 18, 2016

On my Mac they look as close to native as any other app, which is to say that applications no longer have a uniform look anymore anyway. Chrome, Firefox, Twitter, my email client and all of my editors look no more "native" than modern Java apps like NetBeans or IntelliJ.