Well, I'm not 100% sure that telling your billionaire buddy that since he's become a politician in a movement that you view as dangerous to your country and its people perhaps you shouldn't do business together for a while, qualifies as silencing his views. Still, I don't think it was right to demand this of YC.
> Are you pondering why any non-liberal ideas sometimes take hold there?
I'm not wondering why supremacist views sometimes takes hold anywhere, I'm just saying that perhaps people of influence who oppose those views may want to speak up a bit more vocally. Maybe it's even their duty.
> Possibly for good reason. There is a lot of animosity towards the tech crowd there
So Marie Antoinette's mistake wasn't not working in the interest of her people but in reminding them that they're hungry?
He hasn't "become a politician", it isn't proposed "for a while".
> I'm not wondering why supremacist views sometimes takes hold
We were talking about "various racist and misogynistic ideas", not "supremacist views". Are you talking about any view you see as subjectively racist/misogynist, or only specific ones?
> Marie Antoinette's mistake wasn't not working in the interest of her people
Antoinette's famous comment was glib and not intended to help, versus PGs sincere willingness to discuss sex issues; Also, she was a monarch is a brutal reign, if you want to compare than to the SV tech industry, go ahead.
> We were talking about "various racist and misogynistic ideas", not "supremacist views". Are you talking about any view you see as subjectively racist/misogynist, or only specific ones?
There is not much room for subjectivity when extreme views are concerned, certainly no more than in any other moral question. Either you think an equal power distribution among the races and the sexes is a desirable, high-priority goal or you don't. There's room for subjectivity in the means of achieving that goal and in its exact priority, but not in recognizing it as one. In any event, Trump's movement is certainly much more supremacist than any other mainstream and establishment conservative movement in recent history, and leaders at YC have said they regard it as abhorrent.
> Also, she was a monarch
Here we come to the question of whether government is the only external power affecting people's lives, or that there are a multitude of powers. It has been firmly established that the latter view is the correct one. The moral responsibility of an unelected and unconstitutional government to its subjects stems from the fact it has power over them (as it is not formally obligated to do a specific job); every other power has similar responsibility, from the same moral argument, to a degree commensurate with its influence.
> There is not much room for subjectivity when extreme views are concerned, certainly no more than in any other moral question
I'm not sure what you mean by "moral question". I mean the difficulty in deriving someones intent. for example, som people would see "voting for Trump" as "extreme view" and "racism".
> Either you think an equal power distribution among the races and the sexes is a desirable, high-priority goal or you don't
There so much about that that isn't binary. 'Priority' is one, continuous dimension. Implementation is another.
> Trump's movement is certainly much more supremacist
More supremacist? You don't think that's binary?
> Here we come to the question
No we don't, here we come to the conclusion that your comparison of the SV tech crowd to a 17th century French monarch is a poor one; You spun this out to another issue yourself.
> It has been firmly established
Again with the weasel terms. Who, when, how?!? Even 1 + 1 = 2 needs a basis
Well, I'm not 100% sure that telling your billionaire buddy that since he's become a politician in a movement that you view as dangerous to your country and its people perhaps you shouldn't do business together for a while, qualifies as silencing his views. Still, I don't think it was right to demand this of YC.
> Are you pondering why any non-liberal ideas sometimes take hold there?
I'm not wondering why supremacist views sometimes takes hold anywhere, I'm just saying that perhaps people of influence who oppose those views may want to speak up a bit more vocally. Maybe it's even their duty.
> Possibly for good reason. There is a lot of animosity towards the tech crowd there
So Marie Antoinette's mistake wasn't not working in the interest of her people but in reminding them that they're hungry?