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"ideally they'll have been programming since before college"

Lot's of people get into computer programming as a second career. Rich Hickey, who created the Clojure language, studied music when he was in college. Later, when he was working at a music studio, he got serious about writing code in C++, and from that experience he developed his opinions about the flaws of object oriented programming, and the possible benefits of immutable data.

Your remark says a lot about the hunger for stereotypes in the tech industry. As if everyone is suppose to follow the same path to a career in computer programming.



This is very true, and I say that as someone who has been programming since age six.

With my prior employer, I briefly had the privilege of working with one of the smartest and most driven junior devs I've ever encountered, who'd been a professional figure skater in a past life and was fresh out of a Ruby bootcamp. This was a Node shop, and I've never seen anyone else go so quickly from zero to fully productive in a new stack. If the various dysfunctions of that organization included a prejudice toward long-term hobbyists, I still wouldn't have.


I think you've reversed my premise.

I'm saying that early coding implies a higher probability of having useful experience in a junior dev (i.e. straight out of college). You seem to be suggesting that I think that the probability of someone having useful experience is lower without early coding. But I don't think that at all; I don't care whether useful experience comes before or after college.


So is Rich Hickey self-taught (I don't know)?

I think the "before college" comment is mostly meant as "self taught" rather than literally "before the age of 18".




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