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What are your rabbit holes on the internet? (For instance, HN one we all share)
70 points by textread on July 19, 2016 | hide | past | favorite | 46 comments
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For me it's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics

I'm an engineer by schooling but I've worked as a quant for the past 10 years. This means that I know a whole lot of "applied" math but will get tripped up by the formal terminology used.

This usually means I google a term and end up on wikipedia, where learning that term leads me to realized I need to look up the formal definition of another term, rinse and repeat.

As an example from my browser history, I was just reading

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistics

for fun which lead to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_tendency

which lead to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_mean

which lead to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbitrarily_large


An idea that I will never implement is to create a mathematics wiki site structured as a "lattice", meaning that all links within a given explanation can only point "down", for suitable definitions of down. It's frustrating to try to learn anything from Wikipedia because it'll freely jump up to post-graduate math on any topic without warning. Despite it being suboptimal from a pure math perspective, I figured "down" would likely end up being "a topic covered earlier in the standard mathematics curriculum"; any other attempt to be clever I came up with always backfired for the "able to learn math from this resource" goal.

The second paragraph of the Wikipedia page on integers, about as simple a "math" page as I can imagine, as I write this, brings in "subset" and "countably infinite", and the third paragraph just goes off the rails if you're trying to use this to learn about the integers: "The integers form the smallest group and the smallest ring containing the natural numbers. In algebraic number theory, the integers are sometimes called rational integers to distinguish them from the more general algebraic integers. In fact, the (rational) integers are the algebraic integers that are also rational numbers."

I know enough of the relevant maths to actually perfectly understand that. I also remember enough about when I didn't understand the relevant maths to remember what it felt like to read stuff like that. My point here is not that it's a "bad page", just that it is very hard to learn anything that way.


This is exactly it. You want a directed tree for learning, whereas wikipedia is an undirected graph. Mathematics suffers the most since its tree is unusually deep, not wide.


My complaint about mathematics (and similar) articles is that they seem to be written for technical correctness, but not for instructional purposes.

So people who already understand the concepts can nod and agree "I find nothing (further) wrong with that," while learners definitely fall down a rabbit hole of successive links. At times it seems more like lawyering than teaching.

I've considered the argument that Wikipedia isn't meant for that purpose, that it's simply a repository for formulas and such, but I don't believe that agrees with any idea of human advancement and learning, and the site's own mission statement reads "to collect and develop educational content."


I for one, would find a lot of value in a mathematics encyclopedia slanted towards learning instead of mere technical correctness.

Wikipedia's physics articles suffer from the same problem.


Recently started to go to the library, any book, old, thin, large, is better than wikipedia for this.


Remember, they all lead to philosophy.


Which eventually leads here: https://goo.gl/PhVfQd


http://tvtropes.org/ As an fiction writer wannabe, this site is both inspirational and disheartening. There are no new ideas under the sun but the variety and potential for new combinations is dizzying!

https://boardgamegeek.com/ All the information about boardgames you could consume in about four thousand lifetimes.


Not 100% sure what you mean by rabbit hole tbh. But here goes:

http://pastebin.com/trends

https://github.com/trending

https://security.stackexchange.com/

/r/datahoarder /r/stallmanwasright

IRC



http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/ Economics/politics/finance blog by yves smith http://www.zerohedge.com/ Anti-establishment finance/economics/politics


I used to love ZeroHedge, but their signal:noise seems to have gone way downhill in the last year or two. There was always more than a healthy dose of paranoia and unconfirmed news, but it's gotten harder and harder to find the "good stuff".


The question isn't restricted to technology sites, but I'll restrict the context of my answer that way. I've struggled to find sites that are similar to HN. Subreddits are about the closest thing:

https://www.reddit.com/r/programming

https://www.reddit.com/r/coding

+ Numerous other subreddits for every language/technology.

I really wish there was something just like HN, but for videos (like hour long talks). Does anyone know of any?


You might like the Lectures subreddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/lectures/



http://waitbutwhy.com/

Gives great insights in various matters for simpletons like myself.


On a more lighthearted note, I've given more time to slither.io than I would like to admit...


It's a great game to play locally on my phone, but I find the online version usually lags so much as to be unplayable.


Matt Levine's Money Stuff: The further down the link stack you go the weirder it gets.

Slate Star Codex: A bit out of the mainstream, and he clearly has much more contact with people far, far outside of it.


I really enjoy Matt Levine's work. His articles on insider trading are simply some of the most enjoyable stuff I've read.


Wikipedia. I will often get there looking for something specific, and end up following multiple links, opening dozens of tabs and spending several hours reading about various topics.


I like to read the major online news sources from different countries and compare:

http://www.liberation.fr/

http://www.lemonde.fr/

http://elpais.com/

http://www.bbc.com/news

http://www.npr.org/

http://tass.ru/en/world

It's really quite surprising the differences you'll see as far as what is covered, how it's covered, and the placement & size of the articles. Not to mention of course the content & bias of the articles.

By combining the different views, I like to think I'm able to get a more complete picture of the "truth", although as you can see I read relatively left-leaning publications (apart from TASS, obviously) so that is not to say my worldview is completely fair and unbiased.

Other than that the usual techie stuff: ars technica, phoronix, nautilus, etc


My biggest one is "Arfcom" - ar15.com.

The General Discussion forum (www.ar15.com/forums/f_1/5_General_Discussion.html) there is my primary source for breaking news. The community is big enough there's almost always someone involved in whatever is going on, but small and targeted enough that there isn't a lot of arguments and tangents in those threads.

While it is a US-centric gun forum and very heavily conservative/libertarian, the community is far more tolerant of differing views than you would think. It's been interesting watching the older members adjust as niche groups have formed and made their presence known - LGBTQ people, bronies, furries, and anarchists off the top of my head. Finally, while you may get piled on if you post anti-gun views, you're not going to be banned for not agreeing with them. It's honestly one of the more tolerant and valuable forums on the net in my opinion.


Somehow, I am unable to picture an AR15-toting furry. Not that I'm trying very hard, mind you, but still, the concept boggles my mind.

Also, AR15-toting bronies (although, my naive mind is thinking fathers with daughters).


> Also, AR15-toting bronies (although, my naive mind is thinking fathers with daughters).

Note the avatars and usernames: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1887509_Score___.html

Come to think of it, the only bronies I know I met through that forum - so I can honestly say that all the bronies I know own AR-15s.


Well, people have already mentioned TV Tropes and Reddit, but they're definitely two places I can spend hours on end browsing for content.

Other than that:

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/ - If you like obscure games, this will keep you reading for hours. The amount of Japan only arcade games you probably never knew you wanted is insane.

http://www.spriters-resource.com/ - And its various associates for 3D models, textures and sounds. I can easily get sidetracked just looking for examples of strange games, tilesets or enemy sprites. If you're making a fan game or game mod... you'll probably spend more time here than actually making the game.

Various Wikis in general. Super Mario Wiki, Zelda Wiki and Bulbapedia can keep you reading for weeks if you're a fan of those franchises.

https://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor - A very large wiki for unused content in games. There's a lot of fascinating stuff there, and just looking for ridiculous developer rants can take up a fair amount of my time.

For example, this rather amusing rant about warez teams and the demoscene:

https://tcrf.net/Final_Fight_(Amiga)

Forums in general. If I find a new forum, I'm probably not doing anything else for the next weekend or so while I try (and sometimes fail) at catching up on what happened over the last ten years.

http://www.suppermariobroth.com/ - Yeah, it's pretty obvious what my focus is when it comes to the internet. But it's basically one very long feed of Mario tech gimmickry and randomness and it makes for one hell of a trivia source.


Compulsively reloading SO tags that I follow. Usually I can find questions I can't answer, which leads down the rabbit hole of learning it. Maybe I can even end up answering it by the end. win/win.


The setup at https://usesthis.com/ What do people use to get stuff done


A few times each year I come back to Randal Munroe's "What If" [1]. By then I've forgotten where I left off last time and just kinda binge-read them over the course of a few days. If anyone here hasn't seen them yet (or, like me, hasn't checked in for some time), do yourself a favour and do it.

[1] https://what-if.xkcd.com


http://fanlore.org/wiki/

A wiki of nerd fandom stretching back to the 50s. I can spend hours just hitting "Random Article" and seeing the minutes of a meeting on Starsky and Hutch slashfiction in some hotel in 1978.


I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Drudge Report. I'ts like Hacker News minus the comments, but for politics and also odd/unusual stories. http://www.drudgereport.com/


His ad networks have historically delivered too much malware.

We blocked it at work during one such episode many, many years ago, and got crazy complaints from the call centers about IT being part of a vast left wing conspiracy. Funny thing is that our boss was a county conservative party chairperson.


Twitter is a big one. Sometimes you just find that someone retweeted somebody else or that someone replied to them so you just peek into their page and you scroll down and occasionally find something interesting or funny; repeat until I'm tired of it.


http://tvtropes.org/ – click on the blue «Random Trope» button (or it is a pill? — a trope!) and get bogged down in interesting stuff about how stories are made.


Being and Time by Heidegger, a never-ending book; the same for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del,_Escher,_Bach


Currently, most of the links within this thread are becoming rabbit holes for me.


http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?DougMerritt used to be (not that particular page, even though it could)


Software Engineering Daily www.softwareengineeringdaily.com


About once a month I start watching Larry Bird clips on Youtube, which sends me down a rabbit hole of 80s and on NBA.


Internet Archive's texts collection.


englishrussia.com - some rather fascinating images from across the former Soviet Union. From "Lugansk 2016" to "Famous Soviet Salads" and everything inbetween.


imgur.com for random entertainment

Wikipedia about random subjects I come up with

reddit.com/r/arduino and related for project ideas

hackaday.com

Edmunds.com car reviews, at least when car shopping

Random sites on Wikia about TV shows or video games.


For bizarre non-fiction I peruse the DI archives.

damninteresting.com


news.rollc.at, my personal feed aggregator. It pulls most content from HN & Reddit, but there's also a bunch of random blogs.


marginalrevolution.com, a blog maintained by two Economics professors at GMU (more interesting than it sounds).




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