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"This is not true. The Nest operates perfectly fine without internet."

I'll bet that's not true.

All of the QA and QC of the product goes into its fully functional, online mode and the ability to function offline is ignored at best and at worst, intentionally allowed to decay and malfunction.

I have a good example of this:

Sonos music systems, on paper, can run without an Internet connection. This makes good sense - why wouldn't they play local music shares connected over LAN, even when Internet access is missing, right ?

But go ahead and try it sometime ... it doesn't work at all. No doubt some infinite retry connecting to the license server or the auto-update system ... some wait state or blocking that nobody ever notices since they always have Internet.

The point is, it doesn't work. You should be very suspicious of the ability for any of these things to work without Internet.



It's true. I have a Nest and it works without the Internet.

Also, the Sonos can work without an internet connection. It requires a Wifi router, but not an internet connection once it has been registered.




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