"infamy lingering from the carpet bombing of Vietnam"
Carpet bombing is defined as bombing within a large boxed area with the goal of obliterating everything in the area regardless of the military value of the targets in the area.
Yes, B52s carpet bombed some jungle areas of Vietnam. No, there was no carpet bombing of Hanoi, which is what this is probably referring to. Can't believe after all of these years the NYT is still misreporting this. If Hanoi had been carpet bombed, it would have been leveled. It's obvious that bombing was limited to specific targets of military value.
"The zenith of B-52 attacks in Vietnam was Operation Linebacker II (sometimes referred to as the Christmas Bombing) which consisted of waves of B-52s (mostly D models, but some Gs without jamming equipment and with a smaller bomb load). Over 12 days, B-52s flew 729 sorties[148] and dropped 15,237 tons of bombs on Hanoi, Haiphong, and other targets.[90][149] "
>If Hanoi had been carpet bombed, it would have been leveled.
Bombing. Not carpet bombing. The bombing was directed at military targets.
With carpet bombing, there would have been considerably more civilian casualties. If you look at actual history books, you'll find that the Vietnamese authorities were surprised at the accuracy of the bombing.
This is a fascinating conversational tactic. You take a statement, say that they "probably" meant something else, then mercilessly attack them for "saying" that something else.
The only other option would be that they were referring to the carpet bombing of military formations in the field as being infamous. The carpet bombing by B52s of North Vietnamese troops in the field did occur, but was hardly infamous.
Carpet bombing is carpet bombing. Carpet bombing, also known as saturation bombing, is aerial bombing done in order to inflict damage in every part of a selected area of land.
Are you saying President Clinton did NOT use B-52s to carpet bomb?
Please check your history.
"Further details were added by the Reuters that on Wednesday, June 9, reported that a NATO B-52 bomber caught two Yugoslav Army battalions in the open after Serbia stalled on pulling its troops out of Kosovo . The B-52 dropped sticks of gravity bombs on the troop concentrations near the Kosovo – Albania border Monday, carpeting a hillside area where some 400 to 800 soldiers were estimated to have been in the field. Moreover the Reuters added that NATO military spokesman Gen. Walter Jerts confirmed that “heavy bombers had been diverted at short notice to attack troops in Kosovo.”
In 1944, the US bombed German troops in Operation Cobra.
The tactic of bombing troops in field in a massive attack without precision weapons is called "carpet bombing".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cobra
"Approximately 3,000 U.S. aircraft had carpet-bombed a narrow section of the front, with the Panzer-Lehr-Division taking the brunt of the attack"
140,000 people died in the war.
4,000,000 "displaced".
The NYTimes article mentions B-52's bombing Yugoslavia ...
In the Persian Gulf war, Kosovo, Afghanistan and the Iraq war, the lumbering jets, well-established as a symbol of death and destruction, demoralized enemy ground troops by first dropping tons of leaflets with messages like “flee and live, or stay and die,” then returning the next day with tons of explosives.
OK, now you've gone off the deep end. Those 140,000 were killed by the various forces inside former Yugoslavia, in a number of campaigns of civil war and ethnic cleansing.
Per Wikipedia, somewhere about 500 civilians were killed in the NATO bombings, and about 1,000 belligerents. Those bombings effectively stopped the ethnic cleansing that'd been ongoing for almost a decade, and you're citing one case of saturation bombing of military forces as if it were at all comparable to Vietnam or WWII.
Pretty much every ethnic group in the region tried to cleanse every other group. Your source's casualty counts are wildly inflated - even the Serbians only claim ~1,000 killed in Operation Storm - so I'd imagine it's filled with other, more subtle bullshit as well.
If you believe NATO's the reason for ethnic cleansing in the Balkans, I've got a good condition used bridge in NYC to sell you.
I'm not trying to BS. Just reviewing the facts.
I"m just citing something. I'm not sure what "Serbian" means in your context? The Yugoslav government? The minorities living in Croatia? The Christian majority living in under a radical minority Islamic Bosnian government?
I would encourage you to review exactly what Clinton did in the ethnic cleansing of Krajina.
Did he hire contractors and mercanaries to help?
Did he okay the invasion?
Did he have USAF assist the Croat attack?
Sadly, all the answers appear to be "yes he did".
BS?
Please decide for yourself. A candid review of the available data is all I ask.
Carpet bombing is defined as bombing within a large boxed area with the goal of obliterating everything in the area regardless of the military value of the targets in the area.
Yes, B52s carpet bombed some jungle areas of Vietnam. No, there was no carpet bombing of Hanoi, which is what this is probably referring to. Can't believe after all of these years the NYT is still misreporting this. If Hanoi had been carpet bombed, it would have been leveled. It's obvious that bombing was limited to specific targets of military value.