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When the black males spend their time in prison - you have serious competition for the ones that are out.

It is not polygamy/andry, it is an act of desperation on the women's side to have any kind of economic support. When the social net is thin or unexistent - even if it means risking to have another kid. Add to the fact that poor people are the most restricted with their access to contraception and abortion. And you have a self perpetuating mess instead of social fabric.




But which is the cause, and which is the effect? Could it be that welfare benefits have reduced the necessity for a woman to hold on to a man for financial support, so these men are now "adrift" and more likely to end up incarcerated? It might be interesting to look at welfare benefits and incarceration rates before and after 1964.


The benefits are not the problem - you have a lot more generous benefits in Western Europe and UK and still they have lower incarceration rates than US. If they were the cause - the problem in Europe will be a lot worse.

It is the other way around - remove the jobs from a community, men turn to crime - initiate "War on drugs" - and you have a positive loopback mechanism. That is multi generational.


>The benefits are not the problem - you have a lot more generous benefits in Western Europe and UK and still they have lower incarceration rates than US.

...That doesn't seem to me to be a proper control population.


Also child support laws which could create an incentive for having multiple different fathers before settling down with one, so that you get more financial support than had one had the same number of children with just their husband.


I'm SUPER interested in how welfare/child support has had a negative impact on African Amercian men, and the community at large. More people need to study this.

I love examples of good intentions going bad.


Also worth noting, unlike Black men, multiple studies show that Black women (across countries) are the least sexually desirable race/gender combo for straight men. I've linked to one source from OkCupid below.

http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-race-affects-whether-...

To speculate, IMO its in large part due to physical differences between races - the small petite Asian frames being advantageous for Asian women and disadvantageous for Asian men, and the large Black frames being advantageous for Black men, and disadvantageous for Black women. Societal views definitely play a role too. It would be interesting to compare across different societies.


We should really compare OK cupid with Tinder. Since its goal is different with OK cupid there may be some insights.




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