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>Now, whenever you download some giant 300-500mb Electron app

There's the mistake right there. Electron is to be avoided like the plague; if all I want is the same dumb touchscreen focused web UI of the creator's website, there's no need to wrap it in a Chrome instance and call it a 'desktop' app when it doesn't follow a single desktop UI convention.


This isn't really the point of the post. Even a 10mb compact native desktop app is in the wrong if it forces itself into appdata with no alternatives - it's just that modern web-app-likes seem more likely to do this. Some of them aren't even Electron, but they always manage to somehow take up hundreds of megabytes of space anyways.

I don't have to imagine it at least on the internet - I've been blocking all ads on all my devices very successfully since 1999. In fact now I can't stand having to look at or use anyone else's computer or smartphone (usually when they ask for free tech support).


>I have little issue with what happened and have no concern about Mozilla and privacy.

Others clearly do, so your dismissing also ironically adds nothing like the comments you referred to. Those who continue to ignore Mozilla's enshittification over the years are part of the problem; as are normies who fall for their marketing about privacy. Spreading awareness about this is important, whether here or other online fora.


> Spreading awareness

It's not spreading awareness, it's just spam at this point.

> is important

How is it important to take down Mozilla? How is it valuable - maybe do something constructive if you are concerned. Even if you don't like them, aren't there many far more important things to do? Can you think of bigger problems?


Wrong. Every company exists to be profitable; how ethically they go about it is a different topic. Companies aren't charities.


>Seem to tolerate high income inequality or even see it as a good thing.

A free society will by definition be unequal; people have different priorities and abilities, and wealth acquisition isn't a zero sum game. If anything, instead of vilifying billionaires, take a look at the unelected but taxpayer funded and vastly bloated bureaucracies in every country around the world. The shocking revelations of USAID spending billions upon billions to interfere in other countries is example enough.

Prisons are the most equal places in the world in terms of living standards and options available to prisoners; nobody sees them as ideal.

Now lack of upward class mobility - that's a separate problem area to focus on.


Gotta love the change in terminology. 'Unhoused' people instead of homeless, as though their being without a place to live is now someone else's (the American taxpayers') responsibility.


>With the Trumpenreich looming

Weren't they useful the last time around, when 'literally Hitler' totally murdered freedom of speech until Biden the hero restored it?


It uses a hard fork of Firefox's Gecko engine called Goanna, and is independently developed other than a few security patches from upstream. It has considerably diverged from contemporary Firefox so is not comparable.


Seems seriously risky to be running a browser without access to mainstream security patches.

Perhaps it’s secure enough for now due to its obscurity.


> without access to mainstream security patches

They do have access to them. The lead developer and project owner has sec bug access in bugzilla.

But vulnerabilities in newer Mozilla have over time become less and less relevant in Pale Moon's codebase, which led to the latter dropping the tracking of how many Mozilla security patches have been applied in the release notes (starting with 33.0.1).


Bought a Pebble in 2018 and used it with Rebble. Loved the OS and interface - but the device was far from robust. The rubberized buttons eventually cracked and it became unusable because I could no longer press them.

A new version needs to have better buttons and please, please offer the option of a steel wrist strap. I've had Fitbits rendered useless because the plastic/silicone strap cracked and there was no way to replace it.


>We have 5-6 small (~50k people) towns, all well connected. Everything happens on Facebook.

Network effect is always the party pooper. If everyone's using Facebook it's unlikely they'll want to switch to anything else.


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