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I guess one man's overly dramatic is another man's laughter at the absurd. Or, perhaps you missed the "laughing so hard I'm crying" emoji?

Anyway - this is exactly what Apple wanted. They knew it would make people talk. They also knew that some faction of Apple worshipers would come along to downplay any and all issues with it.

Apple can do what they want and the zealots can think what they want, but we can enjoy laughing at them when they fall flat on their face too right?


It's pretty simple - we've been using rectangular screens since forever. With rectangular screens there are no compromises within our software and there are no compromises in our field of vision.

Obviously, the notch stands out. It juts into the rectangle, making it no longer a rectangle. The OS now must make all sorts of compromises and implement extra functionality and options (like compatibility mode). And they aren't working perfectly [0] (LOL - And for what? A thinner fucking bezel? There's plenty of bezel beneath the dock - they should have shifted everything down.) The users must make compromises as the size of usable screen area actually changes depending on what mode the application is in. With the notch, if you use any apps that have a long list of menus your eyeballs must now be trained to skip over the notch as you scan the list of top menu items. The whole thing is a byzantine nightmare.

Most people get this immediately and they don't like it. In all the comments on all the articles and forums that I've read - the vast majority of people don't like the notch on this Macbook and they don't like it on the iPhone either. However, they do put up with it and learn to ignore it given that they have no choice if they want to stay in the Apple ecosystem that they're probably locked into anyway.

Lucky for me - I'm somewhat of a minimalist on my smartphone. I can still buy a new iPhone without the notch (AND with a home button which is way better for quickly switching apps) because I don't need the greatest camera. For my computers, I'm not locked into any one platform but a Mac would certainly be my last choice because of this kind of garbage.

[0] "Apple’s new MacBook Pro notch is misbehaving. Early adopters have discovered inconsistencies in how Apple handles the notch across macOS and in individual apps, resulting in unexpected behavior where status bar items can get hidden under the notch." - https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/27/22748371/apple-macbook-p...


Clearly "what's bad for you" is subjective given that there was a time when many would have said that masturbation causes self-harm.

The other issue is that sin taxes just don't work. They don't stop people from partaking at all. These taxes are just a money grab.


People are complaining because screens have been fucking rectangular since forever! And this change forces klunky software compromises for no good reason.

If they made a triangle of extra screen area jut out on the right, you'd get extra screen space too. I bet people would still defend it not because "it's extra screen" but in reality because it came from Apple.

The fact that people are so willfully ignorant of that is amazing to me. The Apple-think bubble is stronger than I thought.


It makes the screen bigger... thats the reason. The menu bar no longer takes up ANY screen real estate.

They could have just not extended the screen and had a larger bezel. I don't see the issue.


> ...unlike some other companies...

Which ones?


Specifically Facebook comes to mind. They claim they need to use algorithms for maximum engagement, which is probably true.

I still think they would be fine if they just made the news feed chronological (I remember when it more or less worked that way) and let users make their own choices about what to see. I use Twitter that way, where at least they give the option. Next door also has that option, but they automatically turn it off after (iirc) 60 days.

Of course if they weren’t just promoting things that made people upset, engagement would drop and they would be less fantastically profitable. But their users would be healthier and probably happier. I think it is valid for companies to choose to make $5 billion in profit a year over $10 billion, if that’s the cost of respecting human dignity and promoting human thriving. I get that that’s a controversial opinion.


> ...any machines which come close to the M1 for software dev?

If you can stand using macOS, that is.

Personally, I'll continue using Linux because that's where all my software gets deployed to and macOS simply can't approach the value of that or the value of open source. On a Mac, you'll be fighting the OS the whole time.

If speed was all that mattered, Mac users would have left Apple a long time ago because this is the first time they're faster than a PC.


It limits how many menus your apps can have or makes them draw around it. If you enable compatibility mode you'll be back to an even fatter bezel which looks like dog shit.

Rationalize that away.


Enable compatibility mode and you'll be back to the same "dog shit" as the previous screens which people didn't seem to be that outraged by.


Understand you may be that 5-10% of the market that the notch impacts. The vast vast majority aren't running Photoshop and will spend 90% of their time on a browser which likely complies with notch.


You think pro users spend 90% of their time on a browser?


It's just a laptop in the same old rectangular shape, in the same old colors that is actually just catching up and there's nothing at all special about this one… Try to catch some breath.

Nobody anywhere likes the notch either. Triumph? No.


Yet another one of these comments.

When XP came out, people were switching to Linux.

When Vista came out, people were switching to Linux.

When 8.x came out, people were switching to Linux.

When 10 came out, people were switching to Linux.

Now Windows 11 came out, naturally people are still switching to Linux.

Guess what? People are going to continue switching platforms and talking about it.

Oh and 25% of developers are generally running Linux, 25-30% are on a Mac and about 40-45% are on Windows...and Windows usage is trending downwards year after year. [0]

[0] https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021#section-most-...


Still good enough to power about 85% of desktop computers worldwide, one games console and game streaming service, all of which also need developers.



With Linux topping 2.3, what an achievement in 20 years, since XP was released (ChromeOS doesn't count it is a browser).


ChromeOS is a lot more than a glorified browser these days. Android apps are a big part of the experience, and the linux subsystem is one toggle away to runs alongside.

The only real show stoppers left are the usually wimpy hardware it comes with and the lack of polish, but otherwise it has come a long way. I would completely consider switching to it instead of linux if I had a Dell laptop for instance.


Oh, gee well I thought we were on a developer/techie forum.

McDonald's is also one of the most popular restaurants. I eat there once in a while. I still run Windows boxes to play games too.

And it's more like ~30% for Windows when you measure against all operating systems, not just the desktop ones. [0] Android is the top dog since at least October 2020 when it went to over ~40%.

[0] https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share


Android runs ART + C and C++ NDK APIs, the fact that there is a Linux kernel underneath matters zero to app developers.


Of course. But the fact that I was pointing out was that the Windows percentage is actually quite small in the grand scheme of things.


I don't understand what you're getting at. When you develop for Xbox, do you connect a keyboard to your Xbox and launch Visual Studio directly on the console?

What do the Xbox or XCloud have to do with developer marketshare? They're targets, not development platforms. Are you arguing that the Stackoverflow stats are wrong?


Actually you can do that with a DevKit, yes.

Stackoverflow stats reflect the vocal audience that bothers answering their surveys.

That is the problem with statistics, when there is a chicken and two people, each has eaten half.


> Actually you can do that with a DevKit, yes.

I mean, with sideloading on an Xbox technically sure, you can do anything. But to be clear, your average developers are not doing development on Xboxes directly, they're using Unity/Unreal and treating their Xbox as a compile target. And certainly they're not doing remote development on XCloud, that would be a wildly inefficient way to write software when instead you could just develop locally on any machine.

> Stackoverflow stats reflect the vocal audience that bothers answering their surveys.

Do you really genuinely think that Stackoverflow's blog is so unrepresentative that it's undercounting significant numbers of developers that are installing Visual Studio on an XBox?

I still just don't understand what conclusion you're trying to draw. Am I just misunderstanding what you're saying, or are you really arguing that these are development platforms that people are commonly using as their daily driver to write software? Because... they're not. There's not a hidden uncounted majority of people who bought Xboxes because they love the experience of hooking them up to their computer peripherals and using them as their software development platform.


Why would I want to optimize for working on planes, trains and in meetings? That's not a good work environment.

I run desktop computers and since I don't need to play video games on them, I just use the CPU graphics.

However, even when I did use a discrete GPU - every Linux distro I've used just prompts me to install the drivers and things just work.


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