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I typed 'atop' in my Linux Mint 22.1 laptop/desktop, says it's not found but can be installed. So I think Linux Mint is in the clear, I tried my Ubuntu 24.04 server and same thing there as well as my proxmox home lab instance. I checked that Repology link and I did see Ubuntu, but I guess that is for Ubuntu desktop but not sever edition?

ps. If I said anything wrong, please correct me. I'm a linux newb who jumped from Microsoft's world after getting fed up with their Win11 BS. I'm still learning quite a bit about linux daily.


> I'm a linux newb who jumped from Microsoft's world after getting fed up

Welcome to the dark side my friend, it's better here.

> If I said anything wrong, please correct me

Nothing wrong, but if you ever want to see if something is present without actually running it, consider these commands:

    ps aux | grep atop # is there a running process named atop?

    which atop # is there a runnable command named atop on the PATH?
And since you've referenced some Debian-derived distros, maybe also

    apt list --installed | grep atop # has apt installed a package named atop?
If it does contain something troubling, running the command to see if it was present might expose you to whatever the trouble is.


No, that sounds about right.


Linux newbie here. Jumped into the Linux world after getting tired of Microsoft's BS with Win 11. Running Linux mint on my laptop and desktop. Looks like 'atop' is not installed by default, but regular 'top'. Anyone know which distros I should be worried about that have it? Also I have been dabbling with proxmox, I checked and looks like 'top' is the default there too.


You're probably not running either unless you know what they are. Top is an equivalent of windows taskmanager, most often to used identify "top" processes using memory/cpu (and other resources) and only ran briefly. Atop is a different long-running version used to create logs of the same data to understand trends.


> [...] and only ran briefly. Atop is a different long-running version used to create logs of the same data to understand trends.

atop is also normally only ran briefly. It has an optional mode (enabled by default in some, but not all distributions) in which it runs as a service and saves a snapshot of the system state every few seconds; atop can read and show these snapshots when ran briefly.


Ditto. AppleTV or Nvidia Shield (with custom launcher). Personally, I'm now in with AppleTV. I had two Shields and hated when they pushed an update a few years ago to stock android that pushed ads (to services I didn't subscribe to) and that was it for me. There werent as many custom launchers as there are nowadays, but still, went to AppleTv and have been happy. That said, I'd stay clear with Roku with their latest shenanigans as they continue to test their customer's limits with ads now on their home screen [1]. Granted this is on their TV sets, I would still stay clear of their dedicated set-top boxes as it's only a matter of time when they push their limits there too [2].

[1] <https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/03/roku-says-unpopular-...>

[2] <https://wiki.rossmanngroup.com/wiki/Roku,_Inc.>



Could be anything, sadly. Tteck, from Proxmox helper scripts recently died as well but did inform the GitHub community it was appendiceal cancer. Sadly he went quite quick too.

I had a medical colleague who unexpectedly died at 33 after Christmas.

Life is short. Hug your loved ones and let them know you love them everyday.


Reading this while holding my new born and man does this hit you right in the gut.


I feel it too. My kid is 6 and my most important goal right now is survive and be able to provide until he becomes a young adult. My father died right when I was 20 year old and while it was hard I managed. I can't image how hard it would've been growing up without a dad. And without a mom is probably even worse but I let moms worry about that.


Staying alive isn't enough - plenty of kids with dads (or moms) who are alive but still grow up without them.


Absolutely, staying alive but not being part of the child's life is not much different than being dead from their point of view. In my case I have a very good connection with my kid and spend a lot of time together, my kid gets priority over a lot of other things such as personal goals...


As they get older it hits harder, just the thought of any harm.


Yea, I find myself growing increasingly sensitive. I spent several years in Afghanistan and now the most mildest of violence even in media bothers me. I couldn’t imagine either of my sons having to go through that or anyone else’s children. Life is so incredibly precious and until proven otherwise rare.


Yeah. This really changed for me after getting a kid. The thought I hope to live long enough to see my kid do X crosses my mind on a regular basis. Makes you enjoy all of it much more, especially because a lot of things that I can see her do now, I wished to see ~10 years ago.


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Sheesh man that’s pretty damn dark.


In primary care, I used to smell sinus infections/strep as a patient walked in the room for their “sick visit” and felt confident enough to diagnose without swabbing but I still swabbed anyway to avoid antibiotics for viral infections. I’ve long left primary care for hospital and concierge medicine so now c diff stool and melena get me usually.

There was this one time in residency I had a tiny older lady from a very rural town come in with a festering breast wound. One breast was normal sized and the other was 4x size of the normal one. Almost the size of a medium watermelon. Turns out it was necrotizing breast cancer and severe cellulitis. She didn’t recall much about why it took her this long to seek help. Her kids pleaded her to get it checked out but she had a deep mistrust of healthcare workers it wasn’t until the smell was unbearable for her family that they brought her in. The whole ED smelled of rotten infected flesh and no amount of winter fresh and peppermint oil was able to help the smell. That was about 10 years ago and I still remember that day and smell.


As a paramedic, have dealt with the same thing, patients with obvious severe infections (TMI for people with sensitive stomachs - the worst being an older lady who spent her days in a recliner, and had 'bed' sores on her legs as a result, couldn't get up because of the pain, so had defecated herself, which had melted due to body heat and run down her legs into the bed sores) but was still resistant to going to hospital. Irony was, she was a founding part of our fire department many many years ago. "Ma'am, if you don't come with us, the next time we'll be here is quite possibly because you'll die right in this recliner".

She didn't come with us that night, so we cleaned her up, as best we could, and came back the next morning after having done some outreach (our department had a pastor who knew her and was also a PA and responder), and were able to convince her to go.

I'll never forget that smell.

You can do things like putting icy-hot or ben gay ointment on your upper lip. Unpleasant sensation and smell, and doesn't fully work, but ... it helps.


My cat threw up three times in just over 24 hours. I was not best pleased.

So, thank you,. I now have a needed dose of perspective.


Do you still have this knack of smell or did it develop into something else? I spent a lot of time in the hospital growing up because of my brothers being admitted and stuff so I used to people watch often and got pretty good at just being able to see someone and guesstimate what they have/needed to be treated for.


Still got the knack of smell from years of seeing/smelling it in med school and residency. I don’t think it developed into anything else. It’s just repetition I suppose. Now a days, when people go see a provider for “sore throat” they automatically get a throat swab and wouldn’t be surprised if the provider doesn’t even look in your mouth. Pre-covid, I was always looking into people mouths and rarely wore a mask unless it was proven flu or RSV and I think that’s where I was able to hone my smelling skill. Now things like c diff and blood in stool doesn’t require any skill. You smell it once and you know.

Edit: sorry for delayed response. I hope this answers your question.


There are just distinct smells you start to pick up on as you treat a variety of illnesses. There is no superpower to it. Scents tend to form a long memory, so if you catch a good whiff of a suppurative exudate you'll never forget it. For many of us we probably pick up on some VOCs emitted by various bacteria and it can give us the strong intuition the poster above describes.


Yes, kinda assumed that a bit, since illness do give out a certain smell,,was just wondering what else blossomed from that. Maybe the only superpower is having awareness,,


He probably learned it. When I worked at one, I used to be able to smell what power a nuclear reactor had been operating at.


{{asking nicely}} do you credit this for something else that’s developed in your life? Just wondering if things like these help us do something else..{{not so serious}}


No, not at all. I mean, I could think of reasons why I could smell it, but any application of it is probably noticing that stuff is about to catch on fire in an industrial setting..

I teach engineering undergrad now.


Not a dev, but in healthcare. Burnout is everywhere. “Physician wellness is key for a happy physician” but in the decade of practicing medicine, I’ve learned that this phrase is nothing but words out of people’s mouths when you are interviewing. No one cares more about your wellbeing or mental health than you. Like you said, corps will try to squeeze every last penny out of you.

Key to burnout to me, in my opinion, is follow your gut. My first job out of training was in primary care at one of the many clinics of a local health corp (advertised as a local small town nonprofit hospital) but CEO ran it like a for-profit, going so far that he stated in one meeting that he plans to run the hospital and primary clinics like “Chick-fil-A”. Healthcare isn’t a combo meal and has to be tailored to the individual. That solidified my plans to leave once my contract and noncompete was up. They kept increasing my patient numbers despite me telling them I want to do more quality work and not quantity like others in the surrounding clinics. Those complaints landed on deaf ears. I left after feeling burnout for 2 years. I was stuck legally/contractually. Worst acid reflux I ever had that led to ulcers in the end. I entered this field to help people and not see patients as dollar signs. After I left, I was told by the CEO and his Admin buddies that I wasn’t worthwhile to hold on to because I didn’t see 25-30 patients a day. I was a “loss leader in primary care”. My goals since grad school were to provide quality work and spending my time with said patients when they needed it most. Their goals were pure volume and more money and not so much in the actual health care.

I jumped from job to job 3 times until I found my place with a company that semi/mostly-aligns with most of my goals. I’m in hospital medicine now with a side gig of concierge medicine. It’s not perfect but my mental health is exponentially better since I moved on. No amount of money or possibility of accumulating generational wealth is worth it in my opinion like some of the comments about being in a FAANG job. Being able to live a comfortable lifestyle and have time for my wife and two kids is what I care about most and with my current job I’m able to do quality work and still have an amazing amount of time with my family compared to the previous jobs.

Sorry this is a bit of a rant. TLDR We all burn out at some point. Up to you to take care of yourself and find you niche so you live happy and comfortably. No perfect job out there but keep searching until you find one that doesn’t cause you stomach ulcers and aligns with what your goals are as a dev. Life is truly short.



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