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yes, every major llm company did it:

illegally using annas archive, the pile, common crawl, their own crawl, books2, libgen etc. and embed it into high dimensional space and do next token prediction on it.


afaik, guessing anything not 00000 or 11111 at first step will lead to an optimum strategy of 3 steps. because you introduce possible "right digit at wrong place" as a third state.

guessing 00000 or 11111 removes that third state and leaves you with simple substitution of wrong cells, which leads to an optimal 2 step strategy.

but obviously the shortest strategy is just guessing it right on the first try :D lol


It doesn't matter.

Right digit at the wrong place = wrong digit = you should flip it.

This puzzle won't take more than 2 guesses no matter what you input the first time.


It's still two steps. You only ever need to flip wrong digits.


In evolution there is no metric, that's a human made concept. In evolution the thing that kills you also evolves. The "metric" evolves.


there is an extremely clear and simple metric in evolution - number of copies of gene in subsequent iterations of the organism.


Our family had a computer since 1990 when I was 4yo. As a kid in school we had typing lessons on a typewriter in 2001 (despite having iMacs in the classroom). I specifically tried to type as fast as possible in order to leave typing class early. It helped my brain to get up to 130 WPM as a kid. I now type at around 100 WPM.


vibe coding oriented builders, where you draft an app idea and it gives you a prototype?

I'd say Firebase Studio and OpenHands


We need an Eval Leaderboard for LLM assisted Agentic IDEs. The space is getting crowded:

New Editors:

- Firebase Studio

- Zed

- OpenHands (OSS Devin Clone)

VS Code Forks:

- Cursor

- Windsurf Editor

- Void

VS Code Extensions:

- Gemini Code Assist

- Continue.dev

- GitHub Copilot Agent Mode

- Cline

- RooCode

- Kilo Code (RooCode + Cline Fork)

- Windsurf Plugin

- Kodu.ai Claude Coder (not claude code!)

Terminal Agents:

- Aider

- Claude Code

- OpenAI codex

Issue Fixing Agents:

- SWE-agent


Missing OpenAI Codex cli

Also missing a class of non-IDE desktop apps like 16x Prompt and Repo Prompt.


Thanks. I added codex.

Though, since I specifically mentioned agentic, I wanted to exclude non-agentic tools like prompt builders and context managers that you linked. :)

Reason being: my idea of agents is to generalize well enough, so the need for workflow based apps isn't needed anymore.

During discovery and planning phase, the agents should traverse the code base with a retrieval strategy packaged as a tool (embedded search, code-graphs, ...) and then add that new knowledge to the plan before executing the code changes.


I don't think it's a black and white distinction between agentic and non-agentic tools. Not to mention tools are constantly evolving and changing.

For example, Cursor a year ago was not agentic at all. GitHub Copilot only recently added agentic features.

I also think the end game for an agentic tool would not an IDE, because IDE was designed for human workflows, not agents.

I wrote about this topic a while ago and made a classification that's probably a bit outdated, but still relevant: https://prompt.16x.engineer/blog/ai-coding-l1-l5


There is also Trae - vscode fork from bytedance


JetBrains Junie


I wonder why most agentic patterns don't use multiple different retrieval strategies simultaneously and why most of them don't use CodeGraph 1 during discovery phase. Embeddings aren't enough, Agent induced function/class name search isn't enough.

[1] CodeGraph https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.13863


Don't forget https://ollama.com/library/deepcoder which ranks really well for its size


That's the normal way at least where I live (Switzerland) and I am shocked people are being disposed off like that in the states. Is this even legal there? We usually get 1-3 months notice period, then continue to work for these 3 months to teach the new hire or finish our open tasks. If we won't find another job in time, we would get 70-80% of the previous salary until we find another job.


I really loved Phind and always think of it as the OG perplexity / RAG search engine.

Sadly stopped my subscription, when you removed the ability to weight my own domains...

Otherwise the fine-tune for your output format for technical questions is great, with the options, the pro/contra and the mermaid diagrams. Just way better for technical searches, than what all the generic services can provide.


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