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> Isn't it only 2017 CPUs and older? So that's at least ~9 years of free updates (free updates stop at the end of 2026 with the extension), which is frankly better than most other OSs.

That's the indictment of the industry, not a praise for Microsoft.


AMD themselves ended support for these CPUs a year ago, so it is reasonable for third parties to also do so.


Unsurprisingly, my point still stands


> I'd love to see some sort of % success before and after "think deep" was added. Should I be adding "think deep" to all my non-trivial queries to Claude

Any such % would be meaningless because both are non-deterministic blackboxes with literally undefined behavior. Any % you'd be seeing could be just differences in available compute as the US is waking up


I am describing a simple eval. This is a strategy that determines how effective an AI system is, they have existed long before LLMs were ever a thing, and they are perfectly happy to deal with non-deterministic behavior. You are acting as if LLMs being non-deterministic means you can't say anything about them, but before LLMs were non-deterministic, traditional ML systems were non-deterministic, and we had no problem building systems to probabilistically evaluate them.


A "simple eval" would give you nothing. Anthropoc running out of available compute will affect the output significantly more than a change in the model or "thinking".

> we had no problem building systems to probabilistically evaluate them.

Something tells me the "no problem" in that statement is from Death of Stalin when you get to the actual details of that evaluation: https://youtu.be/kasSSZlBFDs?si=-5kv7LPWi_YStR3C


Do you have any evidence to support your claim that "Anthropoc running out of available compute will affect the output significantly" has ever actually happened in practice? To be honest, it sounds like superstition.


It's called speculation, not superstition.

I've already been in several situations when I'd run the same prompt over the same code with completely different results (one near genius, one near moronic). The differentiating factor? Genius was Stockholm morning, moron was Stockholm midday/afternoon.


Easy. The article asks us to believe.

There's a handy list to check against the article here: https://dmitriid.com/everything-around-llms-is-still-magical... starting at "For every description of how LLMs work or don't work we know only some, but not all of the following"


It seems to me like we have the answers to all those questions.

- Do we know which projects people work on?

It's pretty easy to discover that OP works on https://livox.com.br/en/, a tool that uses AI to let people with disabilities speak. That sounds like a reasonable project to me.

- Do we know which codebases (greenfield, mature, proprietary etc.) people work on

The e2e tests took 2 hours to run and the website quotes ~40M words. That is not greenfield.

- Do we know the level of expertise the people have?

It seems like they work on nontrivial production apps.

- How much additional work did they have reviewing, fixing, deploying, finishing etc.?

The article says very little.


> The article says very little.

And that's the crux, isn't it. Because that checklist really is just the tip of the iceberg.

Some people have completely opposite experiences: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45152139

Others question the validity of the approach entirely: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45152668

Oh, don't get me wrong: I like the idea. I would trust LLMs with this idea about as far as I could throw them.


Ironically enough their HIGs used to tell you not to overuse animations, and to keep them short.


> And thank god they did. There was no perfectly legal channel to fix the taxi cartel

And instead Uber offloaded everything onto gig workers and society. And still lost 20 billion dollars in the process (price dumping isn't cheap).


“Society” should have things like universal healthcare like every other industrial country in the world. The US is the only country with an ass backwards system where you are dependent on your employer for health benefits.


It’s by design.. America is all about using you up as an asset then discarding you when you are no longer productive and generate economic benefits.

I always laugh when Americans poke fun at Europeans… we have it much better over here. I assure you of that.


But that's the thing, isn't it? Universal healthcare isn't magic. It's paid for by taxes. Yet Uber claimed its drivers where independent contractors that had to pay for anything: taxes, medical, insurance, car depreciation etc. etc.


And that’s fine. Uber drivers should pay taxes and Uber itself pays taxes - or at least should.

And the drivers have the free will to choose to drive for Uber.


> Uber drivers should pay taxes and Uber itself pays taxes - or at least should.

Yup. The drivers should have to pay everything because despite working for Uber they are "free contractors"

> And the drivers have the free will to choose to drive for Uber

Ah yes, I forgot that's exactly how price dumping works: there are multiple companies to chose from and all of them offer competitive wages.

I mean, it's not ancient history. For half of Uber's existence the ongoing story was: drivers have to drive almost 24 hours a day to make living wage with Uber randomly stealing their wages.

This only somewhat changed once governments stepped in and forced Uber to change some of its practices.


There are multiple jobs to choose from. California’s attempt to regulate contractors was a disaster. Jason Snell, the former editor of Macworld, left to go independent and makes a living based on a combination of podcasting, writing books and freelance writing and he said how much harder the rules made it for him to do freelance writing because of the requirenments around hiring contractors.

Trust me, Snell is far from a fire breathing libertarian conservative.

It’s not the responsibility of a corporation to decide what a “living wage” is. Should Uber pay more to a single mother with three kids than a single father with no kids? Again it’s society’s responsibility to provide for a safety net and to tax corporations to fund it.

On the federal level, that’s what the earned income tax credit was suppose to do and until 2016, it had wide bi-partisan support and was championed by both Republican and Democratic Presidents.


> California’s attempt to regulate contractors was a disaster.

You have to decide whether you want the society to provide safety nets through healthcare, strong labor protections etc. or not.

> Again it’s society’s responsibility to provide for a safety net and to tax corporations to fund it.

Indeed. That's why governments and regulators eventually stepped in.

You can't in good conscience or good faith argue that Uber didn't offload anything onto society and people working for it just because "it's not the job of a company" etc. Uber literally engaged in multiple illegal and borderline illegal practices across the globe, including the US.

And yes, it's the literal job of a taxi company to make sure its drivers work a healthy amount of hours. In Uber's case it meant that it had to pay drivers enough money to cover the costs Uber offloaded onto them, and enough money left over so that they didn't have to drive 18-20 hours a day to make ends meet.

And yeah, not everyone can become Jason Snell


> You have to decide whether you want the society to provide safety nets through healthcare, strong labor protections etc. or not.

My argument is simply that the only “labor protections” the government should enforce on private enterprise is that a company can’t actively harm employees - OSHA protections, discrimination etc.

> And yes, it's the literal job of a taxi company to make sure its drivers work a healthy amount of hours. In Uber's case it meant that it had to pay drivers enough money to cover the costs Uber offloaded onto them, and enough money left over so that they didn't have to drive 18-20 hours a day to make ends meet.

It’s up to individuals to decide whether the tradeoffs are worth it. It’s not the responsibility of private industry to calculate what a “living wage” is for an individual. Uber never put a gun to anyone’s head to force them to drive for Uber. If anything the government should enforce how long someone can drive because it puts others in danger. But does the government stop people from working two jobs that might add up to 20 hours? What should happen when the driver drives for Uber, Lyft and DoorDash?

The illegal practices at least in New York were around taxi medallion monopoly where taxi drivers were getting in hundreds of thousands in debt to own them for the right to drive.

As far as not everyone being Jason Snell, there were other freelance writers and contractors like truck drivers who had to leave California to save their business

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/i-had-leave-california-save-...

It even affected 1099 (as opposed to W2) tech workers who were contractors.


> Uber never put a gun to anyone’s head to force them to drive for Uber.

Oh no. Uber only spent 20 billion dollars on price dumping, driving competing companies out of business, and was the poster child for gig economy.

> If anything the government should enforce how long someone can drive because it puts others in danger.

Once again, the wages Uber was paying were below substinence if you were to drive just within the safe margin of hours. Oh, I forgot, it's ridiculously easy to become a writer and sustain living from a podcast. Those ~400 000 people could've easily found a different job.

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However, the actual insane thing is this worldview that companies are not responsible for anything, and can do whatever they want; that people have to be punished for working because it's easy to not just switch jobs but to go and start supporting yourself with books and podcasts; and that there should be some magical government that provides some safety net, but still actively punishes people if they end up at a wrong job.


> Oh, I forgot, it's ridiculously easy to become a writer and sustain living from a podcast. Those ~400 000 people could've easily found a different job.

So the only choices anyone has in the US is to become a writer or an Uber driver? Does Uber have some type of monopoly on employment?

> However, the actual insane thing is this worldview that companies are not responsible for anything, and can do whatever they want;

I said that companies shouldn’t be able to do things that harm their employees - I never said that OSHA and safety standards shouldn’t exist. They also shouldn’t be able to do anything that hurts others. I even said that they should pay taxes to fund a safety net and to provide universal health care like every other civilized company.

> but to go and start supporting yourself with books and podcasts

No I said that the government shouldn’t get involved with creating an environment where adults can’t get into voluntarily contracts where they get to decide how much their labor is worth.

Even a cursory reading of whey I wrote would tell you I used Snell as an example of all of the contractors that wanted to do freelance who were harmed by a law meant to protect them but only created a nanny state that took away agency from adults who freely made a choice.

> and that there should be some magical government that provides some safety net

You mean the same type of safety net that every other industrialized company provides?


If that is the world you want, then boy are you going to love living in Somalia. You could even move today!


Now you are going to come up with an intelligent counter argument to my saying that the government should enforce laws where the employer can’t actively harm employees, where the government should respect the fact that adults have agency to make their own choices and the United States should offer universal healthcare like every other industrialized first world and second world country equates to living in Somalia…


My employer is a lot more dependable than the US government.

If you trust the overlord you didn't choose more than the one you did, then you might want to rethink your career.


What’s more likely - your company is going to get rid of you in the next five years or the government is going to take away your citizenship?

Did you try to get insurance on the open market before 2012 with a pre-existing condition? Every other industrial country in the world has health insurance not tied to your employer. Even smaller countries like Costa Rica and Panama have better more affordable insurance. Yes I’ve done my research on caja, Costa Rica’s national health care system. We will be staying there a couple of months in the winter starting next year and it’s our Plan B to retire there.


I got my job because I had a life threatening illness at the time. My employer saved me when no one else would. After spending all that money saving my life, it'd be a shame if they got rid of me before I had the chance to fully repay their kindness. There are a lot of other good countries where you can go for care. For example, if you have an impressive looking GitHub then Audrey Tang will give you a gold card. That's privileged elite immigrant status and you don't even need a college degree. You get your gold card. You go to Taiwan. The place where some of the greatest people in the world (e.g. Jensen Huang) are from. You're under no obligation to get a job. You get free health care. The ER waits are ~15 mins. If your heart bleeds red instead then the Chinese also say on RedNote that if you're a sick American, then just come on down to China and they'll treat you and take care of you, no matter how bad it is, or how long it's going to take.


You know you’re arguing my point for me that universal health care provided by taxpayer funds is better than depending on your employer for health care?

And becoming a permanent resident of Costa Rica is just a matter of either proving you have $1000 a month in guaranteed income as a retiree or $2500 a month in passive income or put $60K in a local bank account and they will dispense $2500 a month to you. They don’t tax foreign income.


The best thing about Costa Rica is the Sloth Sanctuary.

You and your wife should send me photos of yourselves with the sloths when you get there.


GDPR hasn't been really enforced. I don't think anyone is scared of GDPR anymore.


MasterCard leaked address + full credit card data about 90.000 people in Germany. Everyone that signed up for a lawyer (that was paid 15% of a possible payout) got 250-300€, including me. If only 10.000 signed up, it's already 2.5 millions.

https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/mastercard-zahlt-kunden-...


That is such a tiny amount it’s absurd?



Yup. Small fish, tiny fines. The actual wide spread abuse? Nope


Unfortunately true. Real enforcement would have companies make sure they stay on the legal side instead of trying to work around the rules.


Have I got news for you...

I'm aware of a single record case that cost the perp 350K. You really don't want to get zapped with the maximum fines based on wilful transgressions on large numbers of people.

edit: I misremembered, it was 100K higher.


Oh no. You are aware of a single cade that is 100K or higher?

Somehow that doesn't stop the proliferation of tracking across the web's largest properties and companies.


You seem to pop up on threads on a daily basis just making up shit and pretending it’s a fact. I guess it really matches the bio you wrote here in your profile but JFC… why..


Because during war you're guaranteed to have electricity and internet for Bitcoin to function


That was one of the key motivations behind the creation of the Internet, yes.


It's always funny to me how "we're decentralized ledgers running in lack of trust environments that don't need government regulation" always run to centralized trusted government institutions every time there's trouble.


It's a push to bring international financial systems up to date, there is no need to reinvent judiciary and executive institutions in this step.


> It's a push to bring international financial systems up to date

It's not a push in any sense of the word. And outside of the US quite a few of financial institutions are "up to date" in most of the areas that matter to people.

> there is no need to reinvent judiciary and executive institutions in this step.

Strange how "up to date" inevitably involves rediscovering all the reasons those exist in the first place and why the "outdated" institutions do the things they do.


Anything you've read about and was appalled by in dystopian literature is already here, and not in some distant future.


Wait, you mean if I go for a nice morning drive, I'm going to get harassed by people in Modern Safety Vehicles trying to run my MGB off the road?


Happened to me once, while visiting my elderly uncle out in the countryside.


And that's the biggest problem with Shadow DOM (and most web component specs): you can't chose the good parts. Style encapsulation is useful, slots are useful, Shadow DOM is just all around bad, having a crazy amount of edge cases and broken behaviours [1].

Can you use style encapsulation and slots without Shadow DOM? Why can't you? I only need the horse, not the horse, and the cart, and the driver, and all the cargo in the cart.

You can't because people pushing all this stuff forward never ever stopped to think whether this was a good idea, and never ever talked to anyone outside of their own group.

[1] I will keep quoting this report by Web Components Working Group to death:

--- start quote --

It's worth noting that many of these pain points are directly related to Shadow DOM's encapsulation. While there are many benefits to some types of widely shared components to strong encapsulation, the friction of strong encapsulation has prevented most developers from adopting Shadow DOM, to the point of there being alternate proposals for style scoping that don't use Shadow DOM. We urge browser vendors to recognize these barriers and work to make Shadow DOM more usable by more developers.

...

Shadow boundaries prevent content on either side of the boundary from referencing each other via ID references. ID references being the basis of the majority of the accessibility patters outlines by aria attributes, this causes a major issue in developing accessible content with shadow DOM. While there are ways to develop these UIs by orchestrating the relationships between elements of synthesizing the passing of content across a shadow boundary, these practices generally position accessible development out of reach for most developers, both at component creation and component consumption time.

...

Selection does not work across or within shadow roots. This makes fully-featured rich-text editors impossible to implement with web components. Some of the web's most popular editors have issues that are blocked on this functionality.

--- end quote ---


That was exactly my experience using it. Great at first, and then hitting real-world and being stuck with the lack of sharing styles (in my case).

Shadow DOM was an absolute pain in reality.


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