That happened 15 years ago.

Yeah but the Salesforce-ification was a long, slow process. We had our own independent offices and executives for several years. Then the gradual slow drain of the old guard...

Autocomplete++ is the killer feature for me, especially for more tedious thingsike SQL column naming.

It's one of those things that if you need to ask why, you'll never understand :-)

I would argue webapps killed them.

Most applications now adays are just electron wrappers.

WebApps also allow a much more flexible update schedule, and other benefits.

Downside: apps now need gigabytes of memory for simple apps. Upside: Linux is now a lot more easier to use as a lot of things are web based. :-)

Are the benefits for the developers or for the users? Does a more flexible update schedule means less QA because you can just push more updates?

> Are the benefits for the developers or for the users?

Both?

I'm not surprised. A few months ago I was reverse engineering their login flow (I was writing a driver for Elixir & Rust), and was getting MANY stack traces and weird bugs happening with their authentication flow, especially around OAuth.

Considering that when I asked about basic features, and bring told that the people interested/working on those left once Salesforce came in... Yeah.

I also love places that are named after someone and it's slightly amusing/horrifying.

Harold Holt was the Australian Prime Minister in the 1960's, and went for a swim and went missing (yes, there are many, MANY local conspiracies this :)). So what did we do? Named a swimming pool[0] after him (construction actually started before his death, I believe).

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Holt_Memorial_Swimming_...

... and the cold war era submarine communications base:

Naval Communication Station Harold E. Holt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Communication_Station_Ha...

    It is generally agreed that Holt's disappearance was a simple case of an accidental drowning, but a number of conspiracy theories surfaced, most famously the suggestion that he was a spy from the People's Republic of China and had been collected by a Chinese submarine.

-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Harold_Holt

If any country would commit to humor like this in large public works, it’s Australia

to every random daemon that macos 100% needs to run RIGHT NOW.

I don't care about memory usage for editors as much I care about input latency and responsiveness.

Jetbrains (IDEA IntelliJ, Pycharm, etcetc) put a lot of effort into making their IDE low latency as it was getting to a point of being almost ridiculous. Their editor is built in Java, and they run on their own runtime as they have so many hacks and tweaks to make it work as a desktop app as well (font rendering, etc).

Pavel Fatin has a [great article](https://pavelfatin.com/typing-with-pleasure/) about typing latency and his work around implementing this in IntelliJ, well worth a read.

Also handy (regardless of framework, language, etc) is if you use feature flags, if you're using actual valid credentials against a service or a local testing service (eg S3 vs minio, etc).

Enabling this for non-technical users really helped also report any issues they would see, it was great for testing environments.

Plus you would probably end up needing all this information anyway if you do any error tracking, so it probably exists somewhere already :-).