BLM isn't specifically about white people killing black people, its about the systemic disadvantage of black people in the US. The US had segregationist senators until the 2000s [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_Thurmond], San Leandro California, a bay area suburb where lots of folks in on this board live, had an FBI injunction in the 80's because they still had segregationist housing policy. Our communities now are more segregated today than they were in 1890. Modern medicine has an insane mount of racial bias baked into it today [https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2021693]. Everything from illness diagnosis to painkiller prescription, to prenatal care is very much tilted against black people getting equivalent treatment to white people. This is due to the bias of caregivers at point of care. The whole point is that race matters, we need to respect that, and understand that.
I don't think your are well informed here. They are protesting the systemic racism that makes some cops feel like they can get away with leaving their knee on a black man's neck for 8 minutes killing him.
Maybe you don't think that systemic racism is a major problem or maybe you think that people should focus on other issues instead? But your graph is incorrect.
Neither of those sources prove that BLM is only about white on black murder. Check out this source if you are interested in learning about the goals of BLM https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/
But it's nuanced and more than can be defined on a page with vast sub cultures and groups all lobbying for power.
As is any social movement, I think there are some problems inherent with it, like the inability to criticize aspects of the movement without being considered a racist.
Ok, what if this person were a thug and he advocates for a "thug life" (as an arbitrary example, a gangsta rapper)? And let's say he committed a lot of crime and physical harm to other people?
Would you issue the same behavior towards him? Would you be very vocal about it?
On the surface, this seems like a silly example - it doesn't compare in practice. However, if you honestly, in good faith, think that it does, you absolutely should make an effort to form that argument.
I believe that what he is trying to say is that, even though the lyrics are about killing people, selling drugs and so, nobody bans their music and they have the right to express themselves.
Posting the most offensive examples of gangster rap lyrics to Facebook or Twitter could easily get you banned or at least flagged/shadow-banned if the songs were about killing people, contained a lot of misogyny, etc. Uncensored gangster rap would definitely violate TOS for a lot of these platforms and would probably get auto-banned by bots. A lot of this music gets flagged as 21+ only on YouTube. Many businesses ban it on premise, and many record companies won't publish it. That's part of why the really extreme stuff tends to have its own labels, stations, channels, sites, etc.
You're allowed to listen to it in private of course, just like you are allowed to read or listen to any racist material you want in private. There are loads of web sites that cater specifically to these circles, and even entire alternative social networks. Like the most violent and offensive gangster rap, it has its own safe spaces and is available to anyone who wants it.
Guys, this might be a shill account. I've noticed a lot of shill/bot accounts on reddit lately. /r/losangeles and and /r/pics are super-super-super anti-cop right now, to the point of ridiculousness.
Are there PR firms out there trying to set public perception?
WTF, there's zero reasons to believe this is a shill account. Looking at the commenters history it looks like a run of the mill HN account (Oh but that's just more proof of shilldom! right?)
Just because it's posting something critical to the police you jump to "shill"? Because posts critical of the police are so rare and not at all something that's been common on the internet for more than 25 years?
It's a new account with not much activity that's reporting outrage material. I don't know, I can't prove it or anything, but it seems shilly. I notice this a lot on /r/cryptocurrencies as well.
Its the conversation that literally the entire country and the world is having. People are paying attention to this in a real way. I don't think there's anything ridiculous about talking about how common it is to have bad or frightening experiences with police.
They're being asked to do literally everything but are armed and trained for anti-violence first and foremost.
Yeah, but that's availability bias. That's my point. There's a lot of shill accounts on reddit posting this stuff with plenty of upvotes, but the comments are critical of the piece. These are obviously shill/bot accounts promoting this, probably by some PR firm out there.
The thing is, police brutality is heavily promoted on the news right now because, well, it outrages people, that's the point. It generates more ad revenue that way.
But if you hear it and see this every day, and someone says the word "police", your mind immediately thinks of "brutality". Not that it doesn't exist, but availability bias makes the issue seem much bigger than it actually is. This is why it's a bias.
I emplore you, try to listen to the actual arguments being made by BLM. It seems like you're reducing the conversation to a tiny factor, and then claiming everyone else is "shilling".
I'll put this to you - people of color are absolutely justifiably fearful of any interaction with the police, and they have to experience it much more frequently. You need a source? Here - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/06/03/us/minneapoli... Hope you'll read it.
And this includes ALL white people, much less "white people who happen to be police officers". My argument is not saying police brutality doesn't "exist", I'm saying it's "overblown".
Finally, I am a "person of color" myself and I don't find the police behave to me in the way you describe. They don't act that way towards my father either, not even once in his life. Or any of my person-of-color friends for that matter. Admittedly, this is anecdotal, but my main point is the overall data does not point towards your premise.
> Reddit is the ultimate cesspool of extreme-left right now in almost every city/state/country sub. It's absolutely insane and people who do not agree with official narratives are constantly downvoted to oblivion.
I thought I was the only person thinking this. It really is scary how much mono-thinking is going on in the world
