It always amuses me to think of technologists as the modern day Egyptian priests/magicians. To the uninitiated, what we do is probably just as opaque and mysterious. Plus we have our own fair share of charlatans.
Literally any familiarity with the lore and it just makes sense, the kind of people the 40k lore would resonate with are unlikely to be AI chuds in the first place.
Though then again people do usually look way past any/all subtlety that might once have been intended and any franchise-ification of something usually destroys the remaining of originality as it becomes a facsimile of its original self.
But GW do seem to take reasonably good care of their IP and world, so I respect them for resisting the imminent slop-ification at least a little bit, there's enough shitty 40k work out there in both book and videogame form already. I'm sure the Abominable Intelligence will come for them eventually too, but until then, the emperor protects.
She can be both, she will become lots of things over time depending on agenda. Her background was decidedly under-reported, for a few justifications, including preventing a preferred audience from sympathizing with the victim.
Not sure what your point is other than volume of information available increases over time.
You do have a point. My point is that we are constantly a part of informational warfare and it is getting old. I would love nothing more than people to look at it all with a cold eye and say something akin to: oh, I recognize this pattern. Instead, I attempts of various power centers to frame it in a way beneficial to them. Some of us are rather tired of this.
But why is your own framing exempt from the analysis? The idea that you should see a murder and "look at it all with a cold eye", to try and dispassionately understand whether it might have been justified, is a non-obvious idea that's quite advantageous to power centers that expect to be shooting people frequently.
Again, this concept of "newly assigned martyr" you have is not something that fell from heaven fully formed. It was shaped and given to you by what you call "power centers" - ones which are currently running the United States government! - because they think this framing is beneficial to them. I'm going to stop the conversation here before I start coming up with unwise insults, because it's just infuriating that you can't turn this critical eye on yourself and the informational warfare you're subject to.
What's infuriating is that you are acting as an agent of the government, defending their murder of a random citizen, but perceive yourself and frame yourself as a dispassionate observer who's interested in the media dynamics of how different descriptors get attached to people. I don't know if you started off like this, or if you're so deep in DHS propaganda that you can't find your way out, and right now I don't care to find out.
The difference between us that I know exactly what ( and even why ) I advocate for: keeping the system stable.
<< random citizen
She was a not some random citizen; I would have been addressing it differently if that was the case. Now, if you have a stomach for it, we can go over what kind of citizen she was.
I fundamentally disagree that ICE deserves that presumption. They have repeatedly demonstrated themselves to be unreasonable people who want to hurt others. I'm sure there's a story they'll tell about why it was totally legal to shoot her, but they're murderers and you're supporting murderers until they prove that there was she was doing something so terrible they had no choice.
Hm, as with taxes, do we get to choose which federal enforcement agency we are willing to submit to? Not going to lie man, it is a fascinating frame of mind to me and I am absolutely willing to talk to you about it if you wanna go that route.
<< but they're murderers and you're supporting murderers until they prove
This is not exactly how any of it works, at all. I am not being difficult man, but I don't get to, say, block FBI caravan, because I don't think they deserve 'that' presumption ( quotation, because I am not certain what it refers to ).
I similarly don't get to tell DEA, ATF, and multiple other agencies to just fuck off, especially if I encounter them in the wild.. doubly so, if I was attempting to track them that day..
The real question then becomes:
Why do you think you get to pick and choose, who can enforce the laws of the land upon you?
More importantly, whose authority would you accept?
They just shot another couple in Portland. I get to tell them, and you, to fuck off as much as I'd like. I encourage you to get on board with the right side of this issue while you have the chance.
Good luck out there friend. I am not sure what you meant to say, but it may be a good idea to stop here for both of us. I see no reason to continue this further.
I think you know precisely what I meant to say. There will come a time when the stain of having supported these murderers will be inescapable. At best you'll live in fear that your life will be ruined forever if anyone ever makes a viral post with strategic quotes from your 2026 commentary. You still have a chance to escape that fate if you want to.
Best of luck in your endeavors. As noted above, it would be wise for you to stop now before you say something very, very unnecessary. I urge you to reconsider this path.
If you are actually issuing a threat and feel confident nonetheless, feel free to post it in plain English for everyone to see.
That said, in spirit of kumbaya hand holding, I would like to offer you a chance to look at the reality around you.
If you look at the released cam video, the only thing that is clear that Renee was not an innocent bystander.
I urge you to pull yourself out of the radicalization spiral you're in. This video shows an innocent victim whose murderer will be prosecuted and convicted. He calls the victim a "fucking bitch" at the end, I'm genuinely baffled what twists of logic you're using to not see this.
I would emphasize since you mentioned it that I don’t intend any sort of threat. Despite the murderers’ best efforts, we do still live in a free country with free speech. Supporting murder is a terrible thing to do, and I will never in this lifetime hold the hand of someone who does, but it isn’t a crime and doesn’t deserve anything other than deep and enduring shame.
its not some pattern of abuse by shady actors manipulating opinions youre noticing, its voting algorithm and attention economy itself.
new ideas are constantly being published, and popular ones gain momentum by being shown to more people. as the idea gets saturated, the popularity gets overshadowed by the time based downranking.
if the idea is still popular though, in this case that ice murdered some woman as part of their shock and awe campaign, variations are going to show up such as "legal observer" and "mother of a three year old"
great news! this old shoulder mount with a strap mounted VHS recorder will finally be able to come out of storage and find a new life! /s
not sure why you feel analog recording is necessary. just need a camera that isn't part of a phone. any DSLR, MFT, Mirrorless cameras would be just as good.
however, there's something to be said about live streaming so that even if the camera is confiscated the images are already publicly available.
I don't disagree with you about the encumbrance and impractically, but the live streaming providers could eventually become unreliable or compromised in a number of ways (genAI, political pressure, advocacy for an agenda of its leadership)
Everytime there a post containing a whiff of negative sentiment related to the 2024-2028 US administration, a wave of elective sociopaths swoop in to flag posts and derail discussion. Even if they understand the merit of the material, they will bemoan the political aspect. Even if they agree with the sentiment, there is absolutely an audience that prefers to ignore any sense of personal responsibility or culpability, however small, to the environment today-- and choose to attempt to stifle discussion broadly instead of politely allowing others to meaningfully engage with it. I believe this activity boils down: 1) agenda or 2) stubbornly evading shame/guilt
> a wave of elective sociopaths swoop in to flag posts and derail discussion
The biggest vulnerably of the entire social media model is the "engagement pyramid" where the number of viewers is much larger than the number of upvoters is much larger than the number of commenters.
HN gets ~5 million monthly unique visitors, or 150,000 per day (conservatively assuming each visitor only shows up once, so that number is probably much larger). But if you look the top post right now has around ~1,500 upvotes, and ~200 comments (and, if you look, comment sections frequently have single users commenting repeatedly, so less than 200 actual people commenting).
This makes it very easy and very worth it to run even loosely coordinated commenting/upvoting rings. 10 people can easily downvote a new post off the homepage, give the impression that the community disapproves of a certain opinion, disrupt conversation, etc.
What's funny is that proposing this is often treated as a claim of a wild conspiracy theory. But the weakness in most conspiracy theories is that they require high levels of coordination among similarly large groups of actors, often for little reward. In this case it's almost more outrageous to claim that this isn't happening (especially since I have personally seen teams of people coordinate to get their startups work on the front page). I suspect even 3 very coordinated people could do a lot to control the front page (or alternatively increasingly large N of increasingly less coordinated people).
Yeah, the more I look at different articles on here, the more I feel like the flagging is pretty targeted at any ideology at all left of center. Or specifically criticism of the current administration.
All that their "anti-politics" flags really do is to make HN more of a "head-in-the-sand" echo-chamber for right-wing ideologies.
It was completely impossible to post anything about Gaza on here through the entire course of the genocide.
It's not necessarily "right-wing" per se, for example during COVID questioning the party line on masks and vaccines could catch you massive downvotes and flagging. It's this technocratic neoliberal cryptofascist thing the people who have always actually run Silicon Valley adhere to.
Justice obstructs itself. FBI can stare at the background of this American white single mother and accomplished poet until their eyes permanently cross (oop), but they will have to fabricate material to suggest she was a radicalized domestic terrorist. AI slop will become an acute problem for FOIA as well.
Given the argument around YC effectively "cancelling" naughty list founders. The John Wick Excommunicado poster for illustration is an interesting choice because John Wick is the hero of the series and is constantly being threatened by the institution that both created and emancipated him only to try to destroy him later. Not sure how intentional, but Reeves himself is beloved figure and often noted as a paragon of hard work and integrity in a grimy industry despite a reputation as a "bad actor".
You can go find a headline about "Trump slammed / in hot water / goes to court for Huge Problem X" from about any week for the last 10 years on Reddit, if you think considering the US a failed impotent state captured entirely by a corrupt administration is nihilism I hope you'll share your dealer's number
> we will all get to watch this slowly unravel however Trump wants, will we not?
My understanding is that they consider this part nihilistic, though it sounds more like apathy, jadedness, and learned helplessness with a dash of catastrophizing (and a hefty amount of privilege) to me.
For the record, I was born in the USSR, and grew up in Ukraine in the 1990s. I can assure you that the US is neither a failed nor an impotent state by a long shot.
Not yet, at least.
And as a Ukrainian, I can also assure you that giving up this easily, and this early is straight up silly.
You are right, as someone who has watched Trump run roughshod over US institutions for a decade, I should use my significant power as a working class non American to fight back, by… not posting comments acknowledging the reality of a US with a kangaroo scotus, absentee congress, and captured law enforcement and intelligence apparatus!
I should resist more by saying, wow guys, this fascist action described in this BBC article sure shows how immoral Hegseth is! I should believe in the power of someone arresting the Secretary of War for his crimes, and I should list all the notable examples of party members being ostracized for loyalty from the current administration to emphasize how silly any viewpoint saying otherwise is! It would be grossly apathetic to comment that loyalty is clearly the most valued “virtue” any member of the current US leadership can exhibit, and I am just so privileged to say how it seems bad the most powerful military of all time is doing nothing to stop itself from being utilized however that glorious leadership desires!
Reasonable discussion is preceding your comment. Discouraging discourse around factual, legal information is how we arrived here. Your reflex to question its relevance as a means to reduce discovery, with or without agenda, is why it is relevant.
I think it's interesting that political discussion is removed because it's off topic, then when it's topical, it's "too far gone to have rational discussion". Disappointing.
> Discouraging discourse around factual, legal information is how we arrived here
> Your reflex to question its relevance
That's a lot of projecting.
There is only really one thing to be said here: the Pentagon and the current administration continues its campaign of blatant corruption, scorning its enemies with absurd doublespeak and blatant abuse of the court system, enabled by a Congress which has fully abdicated its duty as part of its loyalty to the current President King.
What is there to talk about? How we wish that was different? How the media being captured by oligarchs is a main enabler of the current oligarchy? How what Mark Kelly said was clearly not sedition and that use of this term is yet another example of "flooding the zone" and other disinformation tactics by the administration, to deflect from their own crime and rile up their base?
Seems like you had some valid gripes then closed the door behind you complaining that no one else has a perspective. Notwithstanding, the good news is that there wasn't successful deplatforming of the video (no idea if there was a takedown request). There's room to discuss Mark Kelly's service bonafides, whether or not there was precedent, potential copycat petty tyrants, the attention management away from other outstanding scandals, and that this is yet another international embarrassment published by state media of an ally. But it's not a web framework clone nor a dusty, naval gazing essay by pre-cryptofascism pg so off to oblivion goes this post.
I am not complaining no one has a perspective, I am complaining that they are both rote and uninteresting.
This site is to foster curiosity and learning. Sure, [the action discussed in the article]* is a bonafide master class in fascism, and we could all learn about the futility of checks and balances when sufficiently corrupted by money and propaganda and outside influence.
But none of that will happen on an article merely describing an instance of fascism. Instead, some people will say "wow, this doesn't make sense", others will say "it is nakedly corrupt", and maybe a few from the cult will pop by to start a flame war.
Can you really disagree? The discussion is incredibly uninspired. Not a single interesting link or new mode of thought is posted in 59 comments.
No one is making you engage with uninteresting content anymore than they are making you moan about the quality/actionability of discourse -- or complain about anything for that matter. In fact, you can even click the more link to see the 2nd page to find your favorite form of escapism while the grownups talk.
You saw a thing, it made you feel feelings, you decided you wish it wasn't presented to you, and you interpreted that scenario as a call to action to urinate in the swimming pool because you didn't like the temperature of the water.
