If AI is being used to lower salary burdens, it categorically is partially or wholly replacing developers.

Meanwhile, elsewhere in this discussion, you can read examples of people who have used AI entirely to build their product. Previously they'd have had to hire a developer or become one themselves. This suggests to me it is indeed replacing developers - just not where you are choosing to look.

No, it's the economy that is shifting and the reason developers are getting fired. This causes wage lowering. AI is the excuse that let's companies corporate-speak around the economy.

Work lost by freelancers and contractors to AI can't be brushed out of sight with a 'No' and an unrelated vague assertion that the economy is shifting.

Freelance work is like car lanes, the more you build the more demand you have. There's no satiating the need for software. Lowering the bar to produce software will just motivate more companies and people to digitalize/automate more things.

You're equally handwaving and vague asserting AI replacement. It's super obvious that existing layoffs are absolutely not justified by actual AI replacements.

> it's going to soon enter Alpha

Perhaps other browser makers want to move faster than Ladybird.

that's fine.

point is that Mozilla is wasting money and having 4000 people working on chrome may not be the correct benchmark.

Wait why is that fine? The whole point was that ladybird is yet to enter alpha which is the very reason why it's not the correct benchmark. And you said the Chrome comparison isn't the correct one but... didn't follow it up with an actual reason.

I meant it's fine for others to want to move faster and hire more people (like Google). just replying to your sentence. it's fine for others to want things different...

About ladybird, I think it is quite a good benchmark:

- they have accomplished a task many thought impossible in the modern world

- they accomplished it while having a handful of people

- they had a fraction of resources compared to both google and Mozilla. only about a year ago they had few hundred of thousands as support money to get them started.

The engine may not be finished yet. may not be as performant as the other two. but they did a 3rd engine. and given 10% of the budget Mozilla has, they would progress much more. Ladybird Team has shown how everything about Mozilla is mismanaged and simply broken.

I'm another appreciative long-term user. There are things about it that piss me off (especially the absence of a comfortable reading mode - with a quarter of an ordinary screen given over to ui and message headers) but it's been dependable over decades.

In what possible sense is a hackneyed word like 'dovetailed' "perfect, yet statistically improbable"?

> I hope that people realize still that LLMs will never ever be able to produce a piece like this.

Never is a long, long while for LLM development to catch up with hack journalism.

You seem to have missed the point. This is intended to be more secure in a new world where exploits will be cheap to discover. The factors you mention won't keep people onboard if systems are compromised every day in too many ways for fragmented security teams to keep on top of.

People running WordPress don't have security teams. If they get compromised they blat the server, re-upload a fresh copy, update the plugin affected and apologise for the week of downtime.

Impressive and created by agents. Another example for skeptics wondering where the AI apps are.

I think this is too soon to call. No one questions whether AI can build things. We question whether they can build stable things that work as expected and stay online in the long run.

I too have seen a lot of comments asking where the products are. If you're now moving the goal posts to "stay online in the long run" you're gonna have to wait until there's been a long run to stay online in. Agents aren't that old yet.

The stability question is real but I think it's framed wrong. The issue isn't whether an agent can write correct code in a single session -- they can, and pretty reliably now. It's whether there's a human with enough understanding of the codebase to debug it when something breaks at 2am.

I run parallel coding agents on my own projects daily. The code they produce is fine. What worries me is the "just ship it" energy where nobody on the team deeply understands what got built. That's not an AI problem, it's been a problem with outsourced codebases forever. AI just makes it faster to accumulate code nobody fully groks.

Cloudflare probably has the engineering depth to maintain this regardless of how it was built. A lot of other teams don't.

This will largely be based on the maintainers’ priorities. Coding agents can audit and clean up code too, provided that you set the right goals.

> "Failed to initialize playground"

Impressive indeed!

Try again a few times, it ends up loading.

The successor to WordPress will wear out the F5 key

did you test it? How do you know it works?

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Barring an attack on the US itself, the US under the current regime will never attack Russia. Whatever the kompromat happens to be, the President is completely bound by it.

The "kompromat" is the world's largest nuclear arsenal, some five thousand and change warheads, along with a delivery system that includes an HGV MIRV payload that can deliver a multi-megaton warhead at ~mach 20-something.

> As if all their rusty crap still works.

It doesn't all have to work.

Like a beheaded snake, you can still get bit.

Decay and be replaced. You make it sound as if this is short term, like flinging confetti up in the air, instead of long term, like tiling a roof.