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I would imagine not very much? The people buying vinyl are buying as a collectors item or because of its audio qualities. It's very easy to accidentally listen to something that's AI generated, you have to very actively purchase a vinyl. It also costs virtually nothing to get music on Spotify but is relatively expensive to get anything on vinyl.


I should start by saying that I find ads incredibly irritating in any form. That said, Miele and DeLonghi are both more than a hundred year old companies. Maybe they don't need to advertise because they have such solidly establish brand identities, but they do advertise and they have advertised throughout their history as companies. Ads are a way of maintaining brand awareness, introducing new products, and creating demand. Even if you have an incredibly solid product with good word of mouth there is still benefit to advertising it.


Having worked in the world of e-commerce, there are genuinely good companies run by good people making genuinely good products that no one knows about, and one of the ways they try and get people to know about their products is advertising. In one case, this is a product that replaced something already in your home, it's materially better, and it's materially cheaper in the long term. How do you create an ad for that that doesn't sound like a lie?


You have a curated directory of actually decent stuff, and you list the item there. Don't wrestle with the pigs.


What do you do with the other two wishes from the genie?


If no one chooses to be the change they want to see in the world then things can only keep getting worse.


If you're making a great product and you choose to make sure you don't get traction by taking this route (assuming you're not in one of the few niches where it might be somewhat viable), you're just making sure you don't succeed and that worse products with better advertising are relatively more successful.

How would that make the world better?


Whirled Peas could be one of them


And how do you get people to view said directory if they've never heard of it?


Consider that Hacker News does not advertise, and yet somehow you are here.


Hacker News does not advertise because it is a gigantic advertisement for YCombinator. This is not some sort of scurrilous accusation, they may not be constantly banging the table about it but it's not a secret.


I understand that, but the point is a good product spreads naturally.


Hacker News does not depend on me buying products from it for it's survival. If you can't see the difference in why a company cannot depend on word of mouth, then you're just really not trying to have an honest conversation.


Plenty companies don't advertise by shoving unwanted ads in people's faces.


There are plenty of companies I haven't heard of. QED


and yet they survive somehow


Many of them don't. Consider that BMW famously didn't run ads for most of its history... but now it does.


Many doing ads don't.


Hacker News depends on a constant stream of new users to keep the site alive, just like any other discussion forum. But you're right that unlike the average company this site seems to be OK with a stable but small user base and isn't aiming for unbounded exponential growth.


My dude, Hacker News is the ad.

This forum doesn't exist to get you to comment on news stories; it exists to attract tech people to YC.


Hacker News is as much an ad as a good product producing a happy customer


I think we're converging on "loss leader."


It's the way it used to be done with paper catalogues. If you're looking for a snowmobile then you go get a snowmobile catalog from a dealer who you looked up in a phonebook. But advertisers don't want to wait for somebody to decide they want a thing, they want to brainwash otherwise content people into wanting something they didn't previously want.


And how do you establish trust to curate it?


I nearly gave up on Din Don Dan, but if you're on Android you can use media controls to skip to the end of the song and you'll only have to get a few notes right. I thoroughly enjoyed this, and it's ironic that for many CAPTCHAs, AI is now far more capable than humans at completing them .


It's very weirdly worded. Clearer would be: A type of frog which was once used as pregnancy test escaped and colonoised Wales for 50 years.


Direct link to the CDC page with a list of eligible underlying conditions, (as linked in the article): https://www.cdc.gov/covid/risk-factors/index.html


They describe the ban in the article. Kids put their phone in pouches at the start of school and get them back at the end of the day. They say they're magnetic, I assume that describes some kind of lock or means to prevent use.


Maybe like the magnetic tags they use at stores.


Nature is healing. Glad to see this. I was in high school when smart phones really became widespread, and was personally still on a flip phone most of the way through. I think there's something healthy to the boredom the kids describe, which ultimately leads to socialization and introspection. 24/7 social media seems like a very destructive portal to isolation, and having a reprieve from that, if only a few hours a day, seems like a great thing.


Not just socialization and introspection, and not just among kids!

I guess I'm probably preaching to the choir here on HN, but the amount of social woes we are currently experiencing that are indirectly the result of a dramatic increase in social media consumption is a lot higher than I think most people expect.

There are just so many aspects of life that one only really gets nudged into doing at least partially out of boredom, despite ultimately fulfilling so much more. When you can stave off boredom instantly and indefinitely, there are all kinds of experiences that will be substituted.


Hundreds of millions of people are totally oblivious and uncaring of their situation and surroundings, so long as they have access to enough digital distraction. It's the new opiate of the masses.


I would not have learned to play the guitar if I had a smartphone then, or if the internet was any faster than a dial-up. Now I have an outlet to make something beautiful out of my loneliness whenever it strikes.


Internet ruined me for anything long-form. I'm old enough to remember the Before Times, but a lot of people aren't.


I suspect this counts as phone addiction, but I'm reading many books on Kindle with the All You Can Eat Kindle subscription. One thing I've become addicted to is the never-ending series of science fiction stories, for example, such as Backyard Starship, No Stress, Space Express, The Worst Ship in the Fleet, Homeworld Lost, and Frontlines (Martin Kloos, worth paying for). Then there are the numerous series by Alma T. C. Boykin. She's able to spin a story out of everyday life, drawing on history and mythology, while adding enough fantasy to hold my interest.

Some of them are good, while others are cheesy. There are also series I will not admit to having started and given up on when I realized how bad they were. You can thank me later when you realize how much of your life I've just wasted.


I used to read books voraciously and, while I do still read books, it's a pretty small number compared to what I used to do. I've been trying to pare my bookshelves of books I'm never realistically going to reread or read.


Funny enough, I've had the opposite experience. Easy access to books and reviews has me reading conservatively 10x as much as I did a decade ago


The rapid decline in writing quality caused by CNN and the death of print journalism and the quality book writers that used to come from that space has destroyed long form writing.


On the other hand, I would not have learned to play the guitar without the high-speed internet.


Well. I had the internet, video games, tv, extracurriculars, etc and still learned the guitar. Kids have a lot of free time if you don't overschedule them.


> I think there's something healthy to the boredom the kids describe, which ultimately leads to socialization and introspection.

This. People these days talk about boredom like it's the worst thing ever.


> I think there's something healthy to the boredom the kids describe

I recently heard the comedian Jimmy Carr make an excellent comment about how we as a society think of boredom as a negative, when it's actually a positive: "Boredom is just unacknowledged serenity."


I really don't think I understand what it must be like to have smart phones in high school. I went to school in the "no beepers allowed because only drug dealers have them" era


At least in the world of web, cursive is a typographic term referring to fonts that aren't sans or sans serif and are typically used for decorative purposes.


I'm pretty sure that's not true in the world of typography. Cursive there afaik mostly means that it has a ton of ligatures (i.e. a ton of "sorts.")

Fonts that are decorative, when I worked in prepress, were simply called "decorative." It just meant "not for body text" i.e. hard or annoying to read. I assume in the past it meant "don't buy a ton of these, and none in small sizes" because you weren't ever going to be putting a bunch on a page.


> I'm pretty sure that's not true in the world of typography.

You're correct, "cursive" is a handwriting term, not a typographic one. The parent commenter almost certainly meant "script". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Script_typeface


Even like this where it's not just not 'joined-up', but not even independent cursive characters? This is just printed characters, as GP says, this seems particularly relevant because I'd think the hardest part of doing this with cursive handwriting would be all the combinations of the ways different letters flow together - if you restrict yourself to independent characters then you remove that problem.


The world gets hotter, political control of nations continues to flip back and forth between conservative and progressive ideologies, Koreas don't unify, water shortages intensify, year of the Linux desktop.


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