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Science has no problem admitting something works without knowing why. Making stuff up to sell a book is preying on vulnerable people.


Doubt it. Avoiding jailbreak sure to keep selling games, but no one cares about emulators.


The average journalist has to churn enough stories that they don't have time to be looking up anything.

There must be a corollary somewhere about how much you should read the average newspaper.


I was a news junkie for several years (now cured).

I was mildly obsessive about fact checking. And oh wow, it is bad.

My takeaway was that people who casually read the news (e.g. newspaper, scanning headlines on their favorite news site, etc) are the most misinformed.[1] The one who doesn't follow the news knows he is ignorant and doesn't know the inaccurate information. The one who follows it heavily, and with an eye towards gaining knowledge (and not following a tribe) will develop the skill to sift through the crap.

[1] Well, OK - those who obsessively follow only the news in their bubble are probably worse.


Many wise people would agree with you.

“Why you fool, it's the educated reader who CAN be gulled. All our difficulty comes with the others. When did you meet a workman who believes the papers? He takes it for granted that they're all propaganda and skips the leading articles. He buys his paper for the football results and the little paragraphs about girls falling out of windows and corpses found in Mayfair flats. He is our problem. We have to recondition him. But the educated public, the people who read the high-brow weeklies, don't need reconditioning. They're all right already. They'll believe anything.”

"The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day. I will add, that the man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them; inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods & errors. He who reads nothing will still learn the great facts, and the details are all false."


In a discussion of an article about encouraging fact-checking in writing, I wish you would have made your quotes informative by replacing "many wise people" with the actual names of who said them.

For everyone else: the first paragraph appears to be a quote of C.S. Lewis around 1945 [0], and the second, of Thomas Jefferson in 1807 [1].

[0] https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/502048-why-you-fool-it-s-th...

[1] https://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/amendI_sp...


"It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so."

-- not Mark Twain


A decent newspaper can afford this because it also has a fact checker, a copyeditor, a line editor, and an expectation that a journalist will be fired[1] if they systematically fuck up the substance of their writing. It’s difficult to find a decent newspaper.

[1] Or otherwise not employed—newspapers perfected not treating their core workforce as employees decades before everyone else.


Even if the heyday of profitable journalism fact checkers were a magazine thing. Newspapers generally did not use them, they moved too quickly for that and had too much space (newsprint between the ads) to fill.

On the other hand, in that era a much higher proportion of the news in a paper was directly reported by the journalists - things they physically saw, people they physically talked to or called. They weren’t using some half baked thing from the internet because there as no internet. Although they might run something dodgy from another newspaper or wire service, but that was pretty rare, at least outside of the celebrity gossip and film columns (which were, sexist-ly, considered women’s news and thus not held to the same standards).


A decent newspaper today in 2025 writes slop for their website to ensure daily engagement with their readers. To the point that people are talking about AI articles, literally serving slop.

Maybe they have a few AP articles thrown in there.

We have to acknowledge what has changed in our world and why things are the way that they are. Perhaps daily news is simply not profitable enough to provide us with quality information, and our economic incentives (namely advertising dollars from websites, YouTube, TikTok and the like) are having an adverse effect on quality.


Did you mean it was decent in the past?

I think the GP's statement was that there are almost no decent newspapers anymore, which I think nobody would disagree with.


> A decent newspaper today in 2025 writes slop for their website to ensure daily engagement with their readers. To the point that people are talking about AI articles, literally serving slop.

> Maybe they have a few AP articles thrown in there.

I've seen signs of AI slop on AP (and Reuters).


That's why it's called Churnalism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churnalism

Also, if any news orgs are listening: when you are regurgitating a press release about, say, a report or scientific paper, please make it your house style to hyperlink to the report or paper. That way I can see your sources and judge the claims for myself.

Also, people who write reports or papers and then make press releases: please upload them to your own damn websites, and make them easily findable by the public. Don't just email the press release to your pals in the media, and not put your words anywhere else.


B2B magazines and websites are full of churnalism. They are unreadable.

The issue here is that for every journalist there are 6 to 7 PR people. (There approx. 45,000 journalists but 297,000 PR people in the USA. PR agencies employ 114,000 ppl.)


Average newspapers have average content.

But there are good newspapers just like they are good <any category of thing>.

Although good newspapers still have bias, but as a reader, you can correct for bias. You can’t correct for sloppy fact checking.

Like in archery, if you always land in the same spot, you can “reverse bias” the result back to bullseye. If you land all over the place, there’s nothing you can do.

The only problem is that good newspapers cost some money.


In this conversation I keep seeing comments about good newspapers. I'd be interested in seeing a more specific discussion that debates which newspapers qualify as good. Everyone has their own opinion, but maybe a consensus would emerge.

Is it as easy as NYT? Or Economist? Or is that still slop and ProPublica is the standard? But even then, something like ProPublica is great for investigative journalism but less useful as a general source of information.

I'm happy to pay for a good source of news. But finding something that doesn't just look good, but is in fact actually good, that's my problem.


I really like the economist for their various data points/graphs and such. Always very useful and quality in my experience. They are very good at displaying the data used to inform their pieces. It’s the analysis that can be all over the place depending on the topic at hand.

As others have mentioned I would consider ProPublica probably the gold standard right now


A good newspaper to me is one that regularly does their due diligence (fact checking, possibly considering things from several angles, giving background information) and has a consistent but reasonable bias. NYT and The Economist are very good ones.

It’s extremely hard suggesting newspapers to an online audience. People don’t easily separate bias and accuracy — they think they are correlated.

Bias and accuracy are unrelated to each other.

If I suggest The Economist, people think I’m for liberalism (The Economist has a major liberalism slant), but really, they tend to make factual statements and then turn to liberalism as a solution, which a regular reader can be like “okay the facts and your background introduction to the topic are good. I don’t necessarily agree with your solution but I get your viewpoint.”

When people ask for suggestions, they often want a simple news source that is unbiased. And I have nothing to give them because I don’t read unbiased news sources.


The average newspaper has grossly declined in quality IMO.

But there are some good investigative journalists out there.

Arguably, all the smart and careful journalists have moved to the weekly or monthly format. Economist, The Atlantic, and the like.


I think a much smaller percentage of smart high school seniors want to go into journalism at all. And if they do they'll probably just start a TikTok debating people


Perhaps there's also less stringent editing on the "Showbiz & TV" or "Culture" sections of the paper than the "News" section. I mean, papers in general are working leaner than they should. Hopefully, they put the editing focus on what's most important, but still, being lazy even in a lighter section does reflect poorly on the entire publication.



Curious that the Wikipedia article seemingly editorializes the quote. The article displays:

> In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about economics than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.

But in fact Crichton's quote was:

> In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story-and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read with renewed interest as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about far-off Palestine than it was about the story you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know. [0]

Why they felt the need to edit Palestine out of the quote is unclear.

[0] https://web.archive.org/web/20070714204136/http://www.michae...


Quotes aren't supposed to be altered like that; I've just fixed it: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1317337583

Changing "Palestine" to "economics" was done by an anonymous editor five days ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gell-Mann_amnesia...


Because it distracts from the general point, I imagine. The quote isn't about whatever is going on in Palestine at the moment (which is usually something spectacular, terrible, and highly polarizing), but about accuracy in news reporting.

Editing the quote without using "..." or similar indications was, of course, unacceptable.


I love that the Wikipedia article on Gell-Mann amnesia was edited to an inaccurate quote.

Now flip to another Wikipedia article and..


That’s a lot of words for “I suck at my job”


Yeah there's no way it's worth it for an obituary. You need it out in good time, so you can't have a delay longer than a few days. But it's definitely possible to be knocked out (or in a no-signal zone) for a few days and survive.


This being HN, let me say it could work as a service where the service (a human) would check if you are still alive after a timeout.


Could you reduce the BW requirement of the hash table by using an atomic increment instruction instead of read-modify-write ? It still performs a read modify write, but further down in the hierarchy, where more parallelism is available.


x86 hasn't been CISC in 3 decades anywhere but in the frontend. An architecture doesn't consume power, a design does. I'm all for shitting on intel, but getting the facts right wouldn't hurt.


X86 isn’t CISC, sure, but it isn’t a RISC architecture either.


Do RISC architectures still exist? ARM has gained tons of stuff and isn't really "RISC" any more either.

Maybe RISC-V? It's right there in the name, but I haven't really looked at it. However, there are no RISC-V chips that have anywhere near the performance x86 or ARM has, so it remains to be seen if RISC-V can be competitive with x86 or ARM for these types of things.

RISC is one of those things that sounds nice and elegant in principle, but works out rather less well in practice.


MIPS is as close to a "real RISC" CPU as one can be, and it's "everywhere you don't look", but for reasons entirely unrelated to performance --- it's the choice of SoCs which are too cheap for ARM. I suspect RISC-V is going to become more popular in that market, although it's one which is already filled with various Chinese MIPS/RISC-ish cores that are entirely unimpressive.


> Maybe RISC-V?

RISC-V is specified as a RISC (and allows very space-/power-efficient lower-end designs with the classic RISC design), but designed with macro-op fusion in mind, which gets you closer to a CISC decoder and EUs.

It's a nice place to be in tooling-wise, but it seems too early to say definitively what extensions will need to be added to get 12900K/9950X/M4 -tier performance-per-core.

In either case though, a bunch of the tricks that make modern CPUs fast are ISA-independent; stuff like branch prediction or [0] don't depend on the ISA, and can "work around" needing more instructions to do certain tasks, for one side or the other.

[0]: https://tavianator.com/2025/shlx.html


The traditional CISC and RISC division broke down the moment processors started doing more than one thing at a time.

A RISC architecture was actually one with simple control flow and a CISC architecture was one with complex control flow, usually with microcode. This distinction isn't applicable to CPUs past the year 1996 or so, because it doesn't make sense to speak of a CPU having global control flow.


You’re contradicting yourself. The whole reason x86 burns more power is that the CISC front end can’t be avoided.


That was disproved 11 years ago:

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/188396-the-final-isa-sho...

The CISC decoder is like a "decompressor" that saves memory bandwidth and cache usage.


Are there any mid-high end RISC-V chips that have comparable performance per watt to x86?


Wait until you hear about 8 bit systems


Yes and no. A problem with 8-bit and 16-bit for desktop and servers is the limited memory address space, so the compiler has to insert extra instructions to deal with things like updating the segment registers. And likewise if you need to do higher-bit math then the compiler again has to insert extra instructions. Those extra instructions clog up the pipeline, but aren't needed if your largest program's working memory set and the largest precision math you generally need fits within the ISA's bit size. Unless you are doing scientific computing or other large-memory set tasks like Blender (which dropped 32-bit support), then 32-bit really is good-enough.

I couldn't tell if your comment was a joke, but it is worth mentioning the 8-bit microcontrollers like TinyAVR still fill a niche where every joule and cent counts.


No one dies when your unit test fails. Different stakes, different practices, what are all the Tesla apologists smoking here?


A good subtitle isn't a perfect copy of what was said.


Hard disagree. When I'm reading a transcript, I want word-for-word what the people said, not a creative edit. I want the speakers' voice, not the transcriptionist's.

And when I'm watching subtitles in my own language (say because I want the volume low so I'm not disturbing others), I hate when the words I see don't match the words I hear. It's the quickest way I can imagine to get sucked out of the content and into awareness of the delivery of the content.


I mean, subtitles are mostly the same.

Sometimes they're edited down simply for space, because there wouldn't be time to easily read all the dialog otherwise. And sometimes repetition of words or phrases is removed, because it's clearer, and the emphasis is obvious from watching the moving image. And filler words like "uh" or "um" generally aren't included unless they were in the original script.

Most interestingly, swearing is sometimes toned down, just by skipping it -- removing an f-word in a sentence or similar. Not out of any kind of puritanism, but because swear words genuinely come across as more powerful in print than they do in speech. What sounds right when spoken can sometimes look like too much in print.

Subtitles are an art. Determining when to best time them, how to split up long sentences, how to handle different speakers, how to handle repetition, how to handle limited space. I used to want subtitles that were perfectly faithful to what was spoken. Then I actually got involved in making subtitles at one point, and was very surprised to discover that perfectly faithful subtitles didn't actually do the best job of communicating meaning.

Fictional subtitles aren't court transcripts. They serve the purpose of storytelling, which is the combination of a visible moving image full of emotion and action, and the subtitles. Their interplay is complex.


Hard and vehemently disagree. Subtitles are not commentary tracks.

The artists are the writers, voice actors, and everyone else involved in creating the original media. Never, ever, a random stranger should contaminate it with his/her opinions or point of views.

Subtitles should be perfect transcriptions or the most accurate translations, never reinterpretations


Nobody said subtitles are commentary tracks.

And official subtitles aren't made by random strangers. They're made by people who do it professionally.

It's not "contamination" or "opinions", like somebody is injecting political views! And certainly not "reinterpretation". Goodness. It's about clarity, that's all.

Also there's no such thing as the "most accurate" translations. Translations themselves are an art, hugely.


> When I'm reading a transcript

That's the thing though, subtitles aren't intended as full transcripts. They are intended to allow a wide variety of people to follow the content.

A lot of people read slower than they would hear speech. So subtitles often need to condense or rephrase speech to keep pace with the video. The goal is usually to convey meaning clearly within the time available on screen. Not to capture every single word.

If they tried to be fully verbatim, you'd either have subtitles disappearing before most viewers could finish reading them or large blocks of text covering the screen. Subtitlers also have to account for things like overlapping dialogue, filler words, and false starts, which can make exact transcriptions harder to read and more distracting in a visual medium.

I mean, yeah in your own native language I agree it sort of sucks if you can still hear the spoken words as well. But, to be frank, you are also the minority group here as far as subtitle target audiences go.

And to be honest, if they were fully verbatim, I'd wager you quickly would be annoyed as well. Simply because you will notice how much attention they then draw, making you less able to actually view the content.


I regularly enable YouTube subtitles. Almost always, they are a 100% verbatim transcription, excluding errors from auto-transcription. I am not annoyed in the slightest, and in fact I very much prefer that they are verbatim.

If you are too slow at reading subtitles, you can either slow down the video or train yourself to read faster. Or you can just disable the subtitles.


> If you are too slow at reading subtitles, you can either slow down the video or train yourself to read faster. Or you can just disable the subtitles.

And what are deaf people supposed to do in a cinema, or with broadcast TV?

(And I'm ignoring other uses, e.g. learning a foreign language; for that, sometimes you want the exact words, sometimes the gist, but it's highly situational; but even once you've learned the language itself, regional accents even without vocabulary changes can be tough).


> If you are too slow at reading subtitles, you can either slow down the video or train yourself to read faster. Or you can just disable the subtitles.

That's just plain tone deaf, plain and simple. I was not talking about myself, or just youtube. You are not everyone else, your use case is not everyone else their use case. It really isn't that difficult.


You made a bet and lost. Things are difficult.


What even is this random ass reply? Are you a bot, or just confused?


But then what about deliberate mishearings and ambiguous speech, like the GP said?


Aren't same-language subtitles supposed to be perfect literal transcripts, while cross-language subtitling is supposed to be compressed creative interpretations?


Tom Scott would agree with you. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pU9sHwNKc2c


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