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In a lot of newer tech companies it's more of a lateral move at the senior level (e.g. SE3 == EM1). I've worked at a few companies now where I've managed engineers who make more than I do.

It's a different set of skills, you're specializing in people vs code. Companies that stack management on top of IC are basically forcing their best engineers to either go into management or leave for a company that doesn't do this.


> In a lot of newer tech companies it's more of a lateral move at the senior level

Not really. FAANGs - and few more - have been doing for a time longer than I know of. https://qr.ae/pv58mp

> Companies that stack management on top of IC are basically forcing their best engineers to either go into management or leave for a company that doesn't do this. Again, not really! Amazon does stack rank and they can't afford to force out their best engineers. I'm aware their culture is demanding and that's purpose built, but that does not imply what you are saying. Check their levels here - https://www.levels.fyi/companies/amazon/salaries/software-en...


Doesn't amazon also have an IC track (with Principal level) and Engineering Managers?


>Not really. FAANGs - and few more - have been doing for a time longer than I know of.

I work at a faang and managers at the same level make more more money, you can easily confirm this on levels.fyi.


The First 90 Days by Michael Watkins is an amazing book for anyone getting into management and then again whenever you move roles/companies.


+ And worth re-reading as well. Totally generic to field but definitely applicable here.


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Absolutely apply. I've been trying to find people with Django/React exp and am hiring at all levels (despite it saying intermediate).


Is there a remote chance for a remote developer to apply? :)


Does Bruce still want you guys to use Zorba for Compass?


Ah, nevermind. I'll just read your emails. #ExGapperJokes


:slow-clap: Luckily not possible now (and hasn't been for quite some time).


For those that have started a tech blog for your own engineering teams, how did you get people to write? How did you get buy-in from management?

I'm trying to get our tech blog off the ground but it's difficult to get buy-in from everyone.


What another load of crap. Call it something else but this isn't Python. I'd never use this because it's not official. Who knows if or how long it'd be supported for or if any backdoors would/could be introduced.

I've scheduled time this year for my teams project to update to Python 3. It's expensive in the short term but in the long term we get continued support and new features which is a huge win.


Do you trust PyPy? It's not official either.


Would really like to see this happen with .ly domains too.


I'm going to have a blog post going through how to migrate sometime next week. You should subscribe ;)

PS I'm the author of this post.


I should have asked a better question. Still happy he answered mine.



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