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No one helps, everyone just points to an site like code academy or just says go learn HTML and JS. Is not that easy.


The problem with me is I need support. I'll admit I'm lazy


You need to be a bit proactive :) Even if you join one of the camps you still have to spend time learning and practicing (during, and after) to learning everything you need to know. Good luck!


yeah except I'd have someone there to train me and help with things to keep pushing me.


One of the challenging things about software development is that it requires a great deal of self study. In a boot camp or university you will have regular assignments as well as teachers and peers alongside you to help. But if you are not willing to sit and put in the extra hours solo, you will never get as far as those who will.

I am quite lazy myself, but I have tried to be discipline when it comes to projects and learning. One chapter a day or create some new functionality by some date. Setting small digestible goals makes things easier.


> yeah except I'd have someone there to train me and help with things to keep pushing me

Ask your Mom for help then.

Seriously if you want it then go get it. Make it happen.

You don't need a fancy computer (your're just editing text).

You don't need to know everything all at once (even the pros use google as their second brain).

You don't need to be perfect at it to get a freelance gig (just be honest with the customer that you're getting started and there may be some delay as you work and learn).

What you do need -- and lots of -- is perseverance. Try. Try harder. Try whatever pops into your head. Find a way to Make It Happen. When it's 2am and you've been at it since 8am and you have to finish so you can bill the client so you can pay your rent -- and you finally figure out how to fix that javascript bug or the database query or whatever -- that's when you know you're doing it, you've got the power to keep going.

Most of all, don't give up.


What's the starting salary for an entry programmer?


I just wish I had something that goes through me every step of the way to landing a job as a Web developer


Here it is:

1. Build a website using Node.JS. It has login, connects to a postgres database, user can register, receive confirmation emails, login, do something that's persisted (e.g. creating a shopping list and come back and see it's still there.). Hire a graphics designer to give you a minimal design that looks decent, and make your website conform perfectly to his design. Put the site online with a domain name, using AWS EC2. Make it a site someone can legitimately use. Spend $50 on Adwords so some one signs up and uses it to get your first few users, make sure you have analytics installed, later you can tell your clients people really used your site and you can prove it to them. Use Google to find all the information you need, every step of the way.

2. Once you've done the above, maybe months later, ask yourself, now that you know what you know, would you build it much differently? If yes, then rebuild it to incorporate what you know. Repeat until the answer is "I would do it a little differently but not much more than that."

3. Months later again, scour upwork.com or freelancer.com or your university's job board. Find jobs with the technologies you learnt with Node.JS & your choice of database. Take whatever job you can get at whatever price offered (even if it's $5 or $10). Do everything you can to make your clients happy. Grab testimonials. Once you finished up job - ask yourself, did you learn a lot with the project? If yes, raise your asking rate by 25 to 50% and find your next one.

4. When your rate gets up to $100, it's time for you to take your testimonials, and portfolio, and look for a full time job. Optionally you can also take any intern full time positions on the way to $100.

5. Two or three years later from (1.) if your salary has 6 digits then congratulations you've followed the plan to the tee.

The whole process can take two years or more. I followed these steps, except I used Django instead of Node.JS. Django was new and all the rage in 2010. In 2015 it's Node.JS so I changed the formula to that.

Good luck.


So $18-$25 an hour plus tips. To drive maybe 24miles or more per trip not sure and on top of that considering car expense you'd have to pay driving that many miles, gas oil-change maybe tire problems or engine problems driving that far distances everyday could really start to add up.


Where is the Washington Apprenticeships, Seattle preferably :)


I am not affiliated with site, but I believe the apprenticeship model is good. I'm currently looking for a apprentice (http://jeffrey.io/writings/apprentice.html) to do my open source bidding.


Does your apprentice have to be local to you or can they be remote?


It would be awesome to have some from those areas. If you know of any: http://apprentice.at/submit/


start one


thanks that was very helpful.


So if you have a thought of having a panic attack even though no health problems would cause just the mere fact of fearing a panic attack can cause one?


You might be describing an anxiety attack.


Explain?


DanBC basically answered your question. The thing to keep in mind is this is pretty rare.


It could change someones life.. write your post :)


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