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Why not Gitea over Forgejo, which is what Forjego seems to be forked from?

That said, looking at recent releases, there are nice things from both, and if I wasn’t running GHES, I’d be stuck to choose between the two


This is gitea's homepage:

https://about.gitea.com/

This is forgejo's homepage:

https://forgejo.org/

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The homepages should tell you which is more focused on the self-hosted open source use case.


Both of the headline sentences on the home pages tell me they’re self-hosted.

They both also have cloud options, one focussing more on large scale and features I don’t care about, the other others some sort of hosted instance that’s private.

Sorry, doesn’t help me


Philosophical convictions, I guess?

One is supported by a for-profit org, while the other by a non-profit org.


Tailscsle was never the unlock for me, but I guess I never was the typical use case here.

I have a 1U (or more), sitting in a rack in a local datacenter. I have an IP block to myself.

Those servers are now publicly exposed and only a few ports are exposed for mail, HTTP traffic and SSH (for Git).

I guess my use case also changes in that I don’t use things just for me to consume, select others can consume services I host.

My definition here of self-hosting isn’t that I and I only can access my services; that’s be me having a server at home which has some non critical things on it.


Curious how long you've been sitting on the IP block. I've been nosing around getting an ASN to mess around with the lower level internet bones but a /24 is just way too expensive these days. Even justifying an ASN is hard, since the minimum cost is $275/year through ARIN.


Is that the minimum for an ASN? /24 is a lot of public IP space! I'd expect just to get a static IP from and ISP if I were to coloc like this


The minimum publicly routable IPv4 subnet is /24 and IPv6 is /48. IPv6 is effectively free, there are places that will lease a /48 for $8/year, whereas as far as I can tell it's multiple thousands of USD per year to acquire or lease a /24 of IPv4.


Erm, isn’t this normal annual stuff?

When I was a manager at Amazon, I asked my engineers to keep a list of what they were proud of throughout the year, as it’d be used in annual and mid year reviews..


This was completely vibe coded looking at it


Of course, no commercial ones like Outlook are on the list…


The list is brand new. I will be updating it as I have time to test clients.


Will you add a list of Known Good Email Clients? Or just "Tested Clients"? Since you can't possibly test them all, it would be nice to know which ones have been evaluated.


Yes. I will do that. Good idea.


FWIW I tested with gmail a few weeks ago and it was fine.


The OSS features are missing a lot from the one time purchase, correction, subscription only.

They offered Plane One for about a year and but for $799 ish, then killed it in March this year, with the only options now subscription only.


Seeing it get rolled into a single IRM is a good thing. That IRM is cloud-only is not.

I do feel that Grafana are slowly becoming more cloud-first, regardless of that a lot of work is done in OSS. Even if I look at the blog, most content there is about Grafana Cloud. The "Grafana LGTM Stack news" section isn't navigable.

With Opsgenie shutting down, and I see that DataDog releasing their on-call feature; maybe migrating away from the LGTM solution might be a whole thing if there's nothing to replace OnCall; not that it would be easy, mind you.


There are certainly more alternatives than ever. I am certainly team "hosting your own on-call is a terrible idea".

Standalone tools like Rootly (where I work) but also likely every observability company in the next couple of years will follow what Datadog has done.


That’s not a mail client, it’s a GMail client


What type of registry? GitHub packages?


I would hazard a guess, more in the vein of the much-maligned "Windows Registry".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Registry


Is your partner not following the signs saying where to tap in?


Been there. Done that. Even the guards admit it's unreliable.


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