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This article should be accompanied by another New Yorker piece from a couple of years ago:

Hellhole: Is long-term solitary confinement torture?

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/03/30/090330fa_fact_...


Private prison companies such as Wackenhut stand to profit in the billions from increased rates of incarceration. There is absolutely no question about who benefits the most. Please take your blatant anti-worker agenda and shove it.


How does that fact make parent's point untrue? He never said the workers stood to benefit 'more' than Wackenhut; it's not clear what that would even mean. Clearly both the unions and the contractors both are in favor of increased incarceration, that's not very surprising.


It makes his point irrelevant; those workers' interests pale in comparison to that of the owning interests of those corporations. He presents unions as the sole cause of the problem, which is not only intellectually deceitful, but quite incorrect. More importantly, it reveals an underlying agenda that needs to be challenged as strongly as possible in civic discourse.

In fact, private prisons and unionized guards aren't even on the same side, due to the former hiring largely non-union labor. And the private prison industry has been growing and lobbying faster than ever:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/09/26/328486/us-privat...


" He presents unions as the sole cause of the problem" - When did he do that?


When he posted a comment in which he said essentially that, and in which he referenced a one-sided article that goes to extreme lengths to attack blue collar workers' retirement plans and their own collective efforts at bettering their economic self-interest.

The point should be clear as day by now; if you can't extract the basic message and argument from his comment then you have no basis for inserting yourself into the debate. Please don't waste any more of my time.


This was not my basic message at all.

I'm here telling you this right now.

They are a special interest group that promotes incarceration. There are others, as well.

People are far more aware of private prisons than they are prison guard unions. I've known nasty things about private prisons for 10+ years. I found out about CCOPA and other similar entities in the past 1-2.

As stated earlier, I was simply presenting something that I figured people here likely hadn't seen.

You're too emotional to reason with, I'm afraid.

I'm done.


I do not have any sort of anti-worker agenda. I was simply pointing out a special interest group that I found out about in the past 1-2 years that I'm guessing most people here are not aware of. I believe I was correct.

Never, anywhere, do I imply (it's clearly your assumption) that CCOPA or other unions benefit the most.

Look back at the structure of what I said and then reconcile that against what you're accusing me of. You had an emotional reaction to what I said and jumped to conclusions.


From the linked article:

many of [CCPOA’s] contributions are directly pro-incarceration. It gave over $100,000 to California’s Three Strikes initiative, Proposition 184 in 1994, making it the second-largest contributor. It gave at least $75,000 to the opponents of Proposition 36, the 2000 initiative that replaced incarceration with substance abuse treatment for certain nonviolent offenders. From 1998 to 2000 it gave over $120,000 to crime victims’ groups, who present a more sympathetic face to the public in their pro-incarceration advocacy. It spent over $1 million to help defeat Proposition 66, the 2004 initiative that would have limited the crimes that triggered a life sentence under the Three Strikes law. And in 2005, it killed Gov. Schwarzenegger’s plan to “reduce the prison population by as much as 20,000, mainly through a program that diverted parole violators into rehabilitation efforts: drug programs, halfway houses and home detention.”


>However, they're also adding to the language in ways that makes the code expressed in Objective-C simpler:

>Synthesizing properties

>Dot-syntax for accessing getters/setters

>Garbage Collection

>Blocks (closures)

>Automatic Reference Counting

>Weak references

Sorry, but none of these things make the language any simpler — they all add yet another style of doing things that only raises the bar and the learning curve for new developers when reading existing code, in precisely the same way that C++ and Perl have done. And this is true even of garbage collection (which, by the way, is deprecated in 10.8), because it needs to coexist with other frameworks and code that might not be garbage-collected, and more importantly because all heap-allocated C buffers consequently require their own low-level wrappers (e.g., NSAllocateCollectable, objc_memmove_collectable, etc.).


Don't worry, this problem is easily solved by moving to Google Checkout!


I'd have to move countries to do that. I can pay Google just fine, but they can't seem to figure out how to pay me. Fastspring has, for years.


I sincerely hope you realized that my suggestion was entirely facetious.


You should stick with GPL. It's your software and you get to license it on your terms.


One doesn't follow from the other. It's his software and he should pick the license that best fits his objectives.

If he reconsiders and then decides that GPL indeed is the best license for his use case, that's great; but it's possible his original choice was suboptimal.

Edit: But I agree with Parfe - it could be kept GPL and dual licensed for $$, best of both worlds.


It's really not that difficult. Adjust the income tax brackets and raise the rates. Oh yeah, and go flush your disgusting self-serving libertarian/objectivist philosophy down the drain, too.


I'll install Apple's LLVM frontend when I can use it to generate ppc object code.


LLVM has had a PowerPC backend for years http://llvm.org/docs/CodeGenerator.html#targetfeatures .

Do you mean something more specific?



New tools lose support for obsolete platforms, film at 11?

It's been 6 years. The world has moved on, and Apple no longer has any commercial interest in PowerPC. You really expect them to keep bothering with it?


I'm not really concerned with Apple's financial interests. I'm concerned with their software tools and their demonstrated willingness to support the hardware they sell.


Show me a mass-market PC manufacturer that continues supporting 6 year old consumer hardware.


Nope, don't try to shift the issue. We're talking about simply allowing others to compile code for PPC — not releasing brand new operating systems. Apple isn't merely ignoring it — they're going out of their way to prevent even third-parties from supporting it.


They're not "going out of their way to prevent third parties from supporting it" any more than everybody else who doesn't ship an operating system with a PPC compiler. That includes Windows, most Linux distros, your grandma, the corner grocer, President Obama…

Apple isn't actually stopping you from compiling for PPC. They just aren't shipping the compiler themselves. AFAIK, they don't ship any compilers for hardware they don't support — no VAX, no MIPS, no M68k — PPC is not special in that respect. I don't see what's so terrible about that.


I don't understand this belief that Apple should support obsolete technology.

Lion is the _second_ version of OS X not to even run on PPC. Why should the developer tools they distribute for Lion support it at all?


I just downloaded Xcode Tools 1.0 from Apple's developer site, for free (I'm not a paid developer). Xcode 1.0 was released in 2003 for OS X 10.3.

Also available are 1.5, 2.3, 2.4, 2.4.1, 3.0, 3.1, 3.1.1, on through to the latest 4.x versions, free for the taking. All versions prior to 4 will happily build code for PowerPC.

What is it you think they're preventing anyone from doing again?


That's great. Now install one of those on Lion. And you can't run anything earlier than Lion on any Mac sold today.


If you are compiling for PPC architectures, why are Snow Leopard/Lion of any concern? This is just a pointless whine about nothing in particular. If we all shared your attitude to the advancement of technology, we'd all still be using punch cards. The PowerPC platform is dead. They announced it's death at least 7 years ago. Move on.


>But, that doesn't mean anyone would potentially read your email and they don't.

Oh yes it does — they can, and they do.

http://gawker.com/5637234/

http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=12048


Unless you're an important person, celebrity etc, your email is not worth reading, hence under the context, there aren't people out there reading everyone's email. Proportionally, there wouldn't be enough time in this world for people to read every email of every person. Again, you have to look at it under the context of email having a common denominator property of each and every individual on this planet earth, just as, the post office mail box belongs to each and every household. Assume you can read my email and I can read yours, both of our email content would be intelligible and useless for each of us to waste time on.

Ultimately, the point is not if a machine or human is or can read email....the point is, whether present day civilization should give up this privacy aspect to machines/corporations/government etc. The answer is already obvious, somebody has to manage the technology and that somebody is most likely not you....so by default, you have given up your privacy to someone else, so it can be managed for you.

The more bigger and unresolved problem is whether government or corporation should use machines to profile each and every one of us to preempt potential criminals.


I think I'm making contribution here, so I'd appreciate people downvoting with a click, would make their counter point instead.


How many more lessons do you need that centralization of information leads to centralization of control?


Yea people needed to learn that filehosters are not a replacement for real p2p the hard way I guess


Why seed a torrent day and night, linking your actual IP to the infringement act, when you can just upload a file to a bunch of file sharing services on a cafe's wifi and post a link on a forum? If your goal is to illegally distribute files without getting caught, real P2P seems like a suboptimal choice for now.


That's why you use a VPN-service, which doesn't keep any logs.


I don't know of a single VPN service that doesnt keep logs, they might not log the sites you visit but they all log which customer has which IP at which time.


I trust my VPN-provider when I ask them explicitly if they keep _any_ logs at all, and they reply no. They are not required to do so by law (yet, at least), where I live.


They way I see is that people who upload pirated content to those websites aren't doing for a cause. They do it because they earn "points" when the file is downloaded by a free user. Then, they can use those points to create premium accounts, that can be sold easily.


People won't really care. They just use whatever is easiest for them.

When central storage sites are shutdown other mechanisms will be used for sharing. But why bother as long as it works? You're not locked into a particular site, so there's no reason to use other approaches just because something might happen.


And this is the only response in the thread worth discussing.


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