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That is like saying "most of our customers use the drive thru, so we will COMPLETELY CLOSE our restaurant to foot traffic".

A hybrid approach is best, especially when this article is literally text and some photos.


I looked, figures I can find for the UK show that 98.7% of people have javascript enabled.

If I ran a restaurant and 98.7% of my revenue came from the drive through I'd seriously consider shutting the foot traffic part down.


Yea but having a hybrid doesn't just take care of that 1.3%, it tremendously helps those that are blind [1], the huge smear with different versions of JS, those that come in on mobile with JS enabled and then flick it off because your site broke for their random configuration of screen size and mobile browser, etc.

Finally, that's the UK. Students in India trying to learn about space may not have the internet speeds we're used to, and might browse with JS disabled because that's the literally the only way they can afford to without blowing data caps.

Anyway, you'll never catch me doing it unless I'm testing my own site, but it's definitely forward-thinking and kinda polite to have SOME sort of fallback for people without JS enabled.

[1] https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/57340/percentage-of-s...


Accessibility is way more important (to me) than noJS.

Given infinite resources I'd do all three but the with JS experience and accessibility matters more (to me).


Nobody is asking any miraculous things. Merely a dump of article contents without any formatting effort on webdesigner's part would do. Us "nojs vegans" aren't picky. Don't even need pictures, just the meat (I'm sure a pun of some sort could be made here) of the page.

I don't think that's unreasonable, given that the meat here is just plain text, something that web has been capable of delivering years before your javascript crutch became widely available.


> your javascript crutch became widely available.

Bit harsh, my personal blog has zero javascript.


Sorry, it wasn't meant to be a personal "your" aimed at you specifically, but rather than a general one.


No worries. For what it's worth I think 2Mb of JS to load text and picture is bonkers as well.


Potential side-effects directly caused by this are also similarly trending

underemployment, opioid addiction, crime, suicide, widening wealth gap all come to mind


Checkmate, brick and mortar!! Amazon is eating the world.


Well...isn't Whole Foods brick and mortar?


In 10 years, Whole Foods will not have retail locations, and its distribution network will have shifted to 100% online orders ;)

and, i should add, kroger and supervalu and etc will be struggling dinosaurs like sears


I dont know if you intended an /s to follow this but brick and mortar stores as a concept aren't going anywhere.


Nah, no sarcasm intended. There will still be brick and mortar stores in the future, but it will not be the main method of shopping- online will be.

This is especially the case for food. It is not getting cheaper to run a brick and mortar operation with many moving parts. That is why Amazon is winning :)

Only art galeries with high margin unique sales and low overhead costs will be surviving 10 years from now


Hahahha! Also roughly the price of just 2 Flying Raptors, which have the distinct honor of being nearly unfliable by even the most skilled pilots.


I love how the society we currently live in places so much confidence in the statement that "corporations = efficient, rational market actors"...

and yet here we are, slaves to whims of a few thousand people globally who control 35 trillion dollars in assets.

This virtually guarantees that if you want to make a liveable income, you either need to work for or sell to a truly psychotic group of individuals who control an arbitrarly large portion of wealth thanks to a host of monetary and legal policies.


> I love how the society we currently live in places so much confidence in the statement that "corporations = efficient, rational market actors"...

That's the lie. Its always been the case that a free market needs regulation to prevent it turning into a feudal state. Its just that wannabe feudal states have an interest in making the population think that regulation is bad and in the US at least there is less regulation on political lobbying than there should be. The capitalist and free market mantra is correct but without a regulation and legal arm restraining its worst excess it breeds corruption and corruption is a concern of every system.


Yup! I am mostly in agreement. What is scary, I'd say, is that we do have many regulations and legal checks and prosecutors and laws and so on and so forth here...

... they just aren't enforced at all on the big dogs who are doing all the crazy shit.

You have to be as wreckless as Enron to even get a taste of post-hoc legal smackdown, and even then, the damage is still done.


Are there any other ways to effectively organize an economy?

This subthread doesn't seem too promising, but I'd genuinely like to know.


I actually like the idea that the workforce own businesses instead of Capital owning them. There is no reason not to have cooperatives run everything, however often successful co-ops tend to float because the workforce can see a big payoff. Greed doesn't need to define the reason why businesses are created though.

Maybe instead of pay defining where you are within an organisation it's how much vote you get in the business. And obviously you can engage in peer to peer performance review system like Valve. To be honest I'd only ask one question; How much do you want to work with X again? 0 - 10.


Access to capital whilst remaining a coop is the big problem here - speaking as a former cooperator


All of this is possible in the current economy – Many companies are founded by employees. However, I'm personally comvinced they are not efficient, neither in decision-making nor in usage of the workforce. So what happens to them, and why aren't they the most common form of employment? Maybe some don't keep their form of cooperative decision-making, maybe others never make it big on the market, maybe creators of such companies don't intend to become AirBnb or Amazon and prefer a lifestyle business – all in all, traditional companies still dominate them.


I think it's because being a cooperative is not a stable state. You can go cooperative->traditional, but it's much harder to transition from traditional->cooperative.

Ultimately, a hierarchical society is instinctively easy to grasp, while a more fluid mostly-equal one is not. People still instinctively understand hierarchies better than full-on democracy.


> People still instinctively understand hierarchies better

instinctively? Citation needed. If anything, humans are wired to interact in small and non-hierarchical groups.


The Valve system just leads to cliques and making it tough to get things done.


Almost like all big organisations.


We could mostly stick with the regulated market system that a majority of industrialized nations have now, but with higher taxes on investment income and inheritance, and more robust social services to prevent wealth from accumulating to handful of people.

It might also help to have stronger unions and more businesses structured as worker-owned co-ops, public benefit corporations, and non-profits.


What do you think about France? It looks like a good, first approximation of your proposal, many people defend worker-owned businesses here, "service public citoyen" (public benefit corporations), it's difficult to amass wealth (the only rich are from inheritance) and would unionize the hell against powerful corporations if Apple were born here. Drawback: We don't have Apple, we have DailyMotion and people don't aim to become huge enough to compete against Silicon Valley startups.

I don't like being entrepreneur in this context personally, but the startup ecosystem is thriving in Paris and Lyon and I sure hope the current generation is about to issue some major players. I personally fail to see how they can be profitable with our tax levels, social obligations and regulations, but it may happen.

List of hot startups in France: http://www.eu-startups.com/2017/02/10-french-startups-to-loo...


I don't know enough about France to have an opinion one way or another (I visited once for a few days back in 2000), but what you say sounds mostly good.

From a startup perspective, I think complex regulations are a bigger impediment than taxes; any company that starts as a couple people in a garage shouldn't have to be experts in corporate law in addition to whatever problem they're trying to solve.

I expect in order to have a successful environment for startups to happen, you need network effects of smart people congregating in one place and be a place where creative people would want to live. Having good universities really helps. It seems like France should be able to supply those things, but as I said, I don't have specific recent knowledge about what France is like these days.


Since you seem to be the right audience, I'll advertise it to you ;) ...especially since I'm rather a candidate to leave this country!

> You need network effects of smart people

We definitely have this, especially in the heart of Paris, and in other cities too. I've lived in Madrid and Sydney, therefore I dare giving my opinion, with the limitation that I'm not a serial entrepreneur in each of those cities.

> where creative people would want to live

Well, it's Paris, land of Macron, of Montmartre, and social mixity with black/white/arabs/traders/social-workers/low-income living together, etc. A lot of people live this mixity, fertile for ideas and leverage. The glamour is however balanced by high rental costs (=most often living far in the suburbs) and medium pays (60k€ per year is high for us, but health, unemployment, youth education and retirement are included).

> Good universities

We have plenty of excellent engineering and management schools (Centrale, X, INSA, EM Lyon, INSEAD, Les Mines, HEC), half of them free and nonetheless excellent (In France free doesn't mean students are bad, rather the opposite). We're not well versed in international rankings, so Australian unis may rank above us, but I'm persuaded it's more about tweaking the rankings than student IQ.

Given the impression you give, maybe have a business trip in Paris and interview people in coworking spaces to have alternative opinions? You may love France!


Why would you discourage investment with higher taxes? there is a reason that capital gains is treated differently and double taxing dividends also has negative effects.


Why would you discourage labor with higher taxes than investments? That argument cuts both ways


Without capital companies go bust unless you think that Stalinist central planning is a good system


Stalinist central planning is actually Leninist, and it still has capital, just not private property in it (and, consequently, a different way of allocating it.)

Without capital, a productive effort fails under Stalinism, too.


The extractive nature of business can't be fixed without changing things more fundamentally, but basic income or another strong safety net combined with free college education and health care makes labor participation much less coercive. If you can say no to a bad deal, the ideals of the free market are realized in much greater force.

Notably, we often respect this in our colleagues. We lionize "fuck you money" and appreciate when our friends have earned their way into the ability to act according to their inclinations. However, at least on this board, I think there is an over emphasis on needing to earn or otherwise deserve that bare level of respect.

Workers saying no in greater numbers provides stronger checks on corporate behavior. A sibling comment discusses worker owned businesses, which is a stronger form of this.


I'm a big fan of the idea of having business owned by their employees instead of a handful of shareholders.


In practice that tends to mean concentrating power in the hands of a single presidential leader (since employees are less well-organized than shareholders, and more likely to have day jobs) and/or allowing unprofitable divisions to drag the whole enterprise down long after they should've been shuttered. It has its upsides (at a minimum it tends to lead to a better level of basic decency in working conditions) but it's not a panacea.


John Lewis Partnership in the UK have this model.


Up to a point the outsourced cleaners are no longer partners for example.


Yeah, communism, but it only works in post scarcity domains, such as open source software. If there is scarcity there will be selfishness.


I don't think what happens in open source software is accurately described as "communism" in any sense of that word. Especially considering that OSS in practice is a scheme for corporations (including those in direct competition with each other) to pool resources and share their research and development costs.


I agree with your comment. We have to keep in mind that "communism" is a word for utopian society (e.g. no state, no "money", no classes, and common ownership over the means of production) which is the end goal of "socialists" stemming from "Marxism" which is a socio-economic analysis of class relations. The core of "socialism" is the question about ownership of the means of production (as explained by Marx).

The chief reason for why free and open source software isn't "communism" in any sense of the package of things that word contains is that in practise it almost always leads to a very controlled extreme planned centralised collectivist systems. Free and open software development and communities on the other hand are based on extremely individualistic non-centralised non-planned and non-governed system.

If free and open software was inherently "Communist" or "Marxist", then we'd have "ONE FREE OS, ONE FREE DESKTOP, AND ONE FREE DESIGN". Instead we have several free software operating systems, dozens of competing desktop environments, and uncountable number of designs for every individual taste. If you want to know more about this point of view, I recommend you read the "Road to Serfdom" by Friedrich von Hayek.

It's true that in free and open source software we people share the code and tools (i.e. the means of production) to some degree. However we people still inherently govern the domains of our work and we get rewarded for the work that gets done. Instead of "money", hackers often get rewarded e.g. by "fame". Eric S. Raymond explains quite well in his book Cathedral and the Bazaar how this works and in great detail too.

But most importantly there is no central planner which would dictate how things work and coordinate the operations. If some guy doesn't like how a free and open software project is being developed, he can fork the fuck out of it and create a competing project. And this makes it sound more like anarcho-capitalism than anything else. We don't have "centralised state" that would set the framework where code is allowed to happen and "market of ideas" operates. This fits into agenda of our current corporatist society quite well and even companies which are in direct competition can benefit from it pouring resources to projects of mutual interest.

It's true that when we inspect how free and open software projects are developed, we at times counter cases of central-planner but often we notice that this entity is restricted by the pressure from the users and the fear of having project forked and lost "fame" / "reputation". This is basically why "dictators" that lead their projects aren't sole rulers of their domains. Most commonly we see governing bodies of few selected individuals aka. oligarchies that manage the free and open software project.


When the Fed stops dispersing cheap money to banks, who disperse it to publicly traded companies...

and when the "regulators" and "prosecutors" and "judges" aren't vacation pals with the Fortune 500 CEOs...

then maybe we will have some kind of a true free market, and not just an illusion of one run by the American Corporate Mafia :)

All businesses in America are fighting a zero sum game. Values and ethics are chucked out the window once you grow past Mojang's size. Out goes the employee ownership and work-life balance, in comes the desparation to grow into a monopoly. Wall St is a knife fight in my opinion. There will always be a competitor more desperate than you to win, and the market will reward them for it.


Maybe start a corporation capable of sustaining a couple hundred individuals then review your comment.

Source: I've been self-employed and incorporated for nearly a decade, presently working up to employee #3.


I would love to, but that doesn't negate my statement that not all corporations are logical and efficient actors in the market place. As a result, too many humans on this earth will have to jump through the stupid and wasteful hoops set up by the CEO of a company that receives cheap money (indirectly) from the Fed.

So the next time you are working unpaid overtime and planning the CEO's first class flights to a "client meeting" that is really just a Wall St funded vacation for him...


Oh my god this is such a true statement!!!

Unless you want to be curled up on a couch for 5 days and sleepless with your muscles and forehead visibly spasming every 15 seconds, DON'T take any benzos, and DON'T quit them cold turkey.

I had the misfortune of experiencing this first hand, but others have had it much worse, going into seizures and dying after trying to quit benzos for years.

There are definitely other treatment options. Don't mess with benzos unless you absolutely cannot bear an acute situation!!!

Good luck to everyone who is truly suffering out there! You can make it through !! :)


quality control is hard at scale.

i don't understand why it's so hard for people to order from a local shop with an owner they trust?

sometimes you reap what you sow


If I'm making a tech product (not SaaS) as a solo founder, no employees, no funding, not in the Bay Area, but making a product that people love, would I be considered a success?

I personally love the Startup School lectures and they have been a great help to me.


If you're growing and profitable, you might consider ignoring all the startup culture nonsense.


Why would "growing" be a prerequisite to success? Isn't profitable enough, especially if already decently profitable?


I assume you are asking a serious question, but yes, you need to at least grow to match the rate of inflation/cost of living. Aside from that, it's up to you to decide how much you want to grow.


Really depends upon the goal. If you're a venture funded startup then the find is aiming for a 10x truth from you over 7-10 years. This will translate to 2-3x Y/Y growth for the first years of the startup. Ofcourse, if you're self funded, these rules don't apply.


Growing yes, and profitable yes! I may not have a million or billion dollar market, but I've totally replaced my desk job income with this :)

I don't see the niche drying up anytime soon, so I appreciate this advice. I feel like I am on the right track!


What matters is if it's a success to you. Which I'm worried sounds like it might be flip or dismissive, but I think is the core truth of it.


No, thank you so much for this advice! It was helpful and much needed.

I may not be building a million or billion dollar market, but I figure that if money is the same, I'm glad to be working by my own rules rather than someone else's!


Are you making money? Then yes.


Fortunately yes!! Of course it is not millions of dollars a year, but it is enough to replace a desk job income and seems stable.

Here's to hoping!!


NSA analysts can only be called "experts in analyzing intelligence" if TSA agents can also be called "experts in analyzing terrorist threats".

Because the bar for hiring is pretty much the same lol


He is in fact extremely lean, and his fingers have massive growths of connective tissue from all the years of thrashing up rocks dangling by his fingertips ^.^


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