Gaming? More like consumer market, Ryzen 7 is definitely not suited for gamers, advertising it as such was IMO mistake. Nevertheless Naples can be big innovation in server segment.
The underperformance in gaming was tracked down to software issues according to AMD. Namely:
- bugs in the Windows process scheduler (scheduling 2 threads on same core, and moving threads across CPU complexes which loses all L3 cache data since each CCX has its own cache)
- buggy BIOS accidentally disabling Boost or the High Performance mode (feature that lets the processor adjust voltage and clock every 1 ms instead of every 40 ms.)
Furthermore hardcore gamers usually play at 1440p or higher in which case there is no difference in perf between Intel or AMD, as demonstrated by the many benchmarks (because the GPU is always the bottleneck at such high resolutions.)
"Hardcore" is different from "hardware enthusiast".
Hardcore is that guy who plays Call of Duty 24x7 on his Xbox 360 and mediocre 720p television. You can't deny the determination or enthusiasm. Hardware's irrelevant.
Blaming windows is just a desperate excuse from AMD to justify its lack of performances. Don't be tricked by that.
It's possible -and rather common- that there are motherboard issues on the first generation of MB, which again, is not a a valid excuse but a bad thing that desperately needs fixing from AMD and a sign that it's still in testing phase.
Or when Intel HT first appeared. Or when Intel HT reappeared. Or when the first dual core appeared. Every time Windows needed updates to perform properly; Linux also needed patches to adjust scheduling for Zen and also received patches in many other instances.
The scheduling decisions of Windows are not unknowable. It was entirely AMD's call to make a CPU that was effectively hyperthreaded but to still mark the cores as fully independent.
Not being the top single-threaded performer which is required to push many many hundreds of frames per second != "not suited for gamers". Games in general are more likely to be GPU-bound!! Intel's quad cores are only really required for the pro Counter-Strike players who want 600fps at 1080p just to get the absolute latest frame.
BTW they advertised it as good for gaming + streaming (h264 CPU encoding at the same time on the same machine). And "content creation", which pretty much always means video editing.
IIRC Ryzen supports unbuffered ECC if the mainboard supports it.
> Intel's quad cores are only really required for the pro Counter-Strike players who want 600fps at 1080p just to get the absolute latest frame.
The source engine isn't exactly the pinnacle of engine development.
It doesn't really know what to with more than 2ish cores, so you probably get more FPS by using a dual core instead of a quad core, which tend to go farther in terms of overclocking.
AdoredTV has a pretty objective video on this subject[1]. TL;DW he expects it to move past Intel perf in the future - based on how an older AMD chip is now beating a then-better Intel chip.
My opinion: if Microsoft is able to pivot the Scorpio over to the Ryzen (or indeed, any CPU with more than 4C/8T) it will drastically alter the lowest common denominator in terms of what game developerss target - i.e. we'll see games moving towards more modern threading architectures (e.g. futures/jobs as-per Star Citizen, which more thoroughly exploit CPU resources).
Furthermore, there is hearsay evidence that supports AMDs claims. Ashes of the Singularity currently runs better on Intel but the developers claim:
[2]> Oxide games is incredibly excited with what we are seeing from the Ryzen CPU. Using our Nitrous game engine, we are working to scale our existing and future game title performance to take full advantage of Ryzen and its 8-core, 16-thread architecture, and the results thus far are impressive.
In addition to that, if you look at the CPU usage/saturation alongside the benchmarks (13:08 in [1]) it's strikingly obvious that the CPU is not the bottleneck - Intel is upwards of 90% on all cores while the Ryzen hovers around ~60%. I'm holding my credit card close until the aforementioned optimizations and rumored bios patches land, but I'm willing to give AMD a little benefit of the doubt - what we're seeing largely matches what they are saying.
Sorry but for years the mantra was for a gaming pic to invest in a i5 or even an i3 and spend the extra money in a good GPU. But for some bizarre reason suddenly everything that is not performing as an i7 7770k is a "bad cpu for gaming". It's ridiculous.
Hell in 30 million households there are 8 jaguar x86 core gaming machines active now with an IPC that is probably (I assume) atrocious.
I build my i7 4770 4 years ago and the sad part is that it will probably still take a lot of time for it to become a bottleneck in 90% of the games.
If you check Digital Foundry's excellent i5 vs i7 benchmarks, if building a machine to game on you want 8 threads minimum today. Times have indeed changed on the old i5 recommendation.
That said, completely tangential to what you're saying. Ryzen may (at worst) perform like an i5 in gaming but it has more than 8 threads. I do everything with my machine and going with a R7 1700 overclocked.
It's just as suited for gaming as it is for anything else. The problem is everyone expected all games to run buttery smooth on day one with no hiccups. Ryzen specific game engine optimisations are coming according to AMD, as well as a Windows 10 scheduler patch. There are also other issues on the motherboard/BIOS side which manufacturers are working on.
You can't say this enough to people, they just don't want to get it.
New CPU arch, new platform, beta bios, new node, no OS scheduler patch, no engine optimizations. Considering all this, the performance is truly amazing.
Slack is down, productivity goes up... after using it for a while I find it does communications within a team well but does almost nothing to increase collaboration, so I guess slack is in area which apps like Discord will disrupt.
Discord's a compelling alternative, but it's just another flavour of same. If you want distributed you need something more like IRC or at least federated XMPP.
OK, this looks promising but one question - how do you plan to avoid rapidshare, uploaded and mega fate? This is not 2006, copyright owners will tear you apart day 1.
My guess is that for a lot of Porsche Design products, these are an answer to the question "What else can I buy that has the Porsche logo on it since I can't buy the car?"
So some competition consideration is taking place when they set prices.
Well other manufacturers have had limited edition vehicles that can with accessories that didn't have much to do with cars other than branding. For some the exclusivity is a nice bonus.
still manufacturers run the risk of any technology oriented accessory or similar having issues and tarnishing the brand
Porsche Design products (clothes, home appliances) are present in many malls, at least where I live. The design is very goofy (more so than even of their cars), and prices are competitive with higher-quality brands. Seems like there's a market segment which would trade some quality off for a sports car brand.
I personally do support your viewpoint, it's very unclassy to have anything car-branded if you don't have that very car.
Nope, they are a perfect company who can do no wrong on HN. Just try to point out something they screw up, an army will show up to obliterate you immediately. I guess this is the new phase of marketing, just make sure you dominate discussions everywhere, all the time.
Are you kidding? Google can barely throw away a cardboard box without a flood of HN comments exclaiming "embrace, extend, extinguish!" and calling them "the new Microsoft."
Right now, they are saying it's not a 3DS replacement. However, they said the same thing about the DS, and how it was a "third pillar" to the GBA and GCN.
I think it is the next-gen high-end handheld. You couldn't improve the 3DS much without ending out at something close to the switch. But it is larger and significantly higher priced. Especially when you compare it to the 2DS which is less than $100. So for quite a while the 2/3DS are going to occupy the lower price point and ultraportable sector. Only as the Switch prices get lower and possibly a "Switch Mini" gets released, the 2/3DS would be phased out completely.
It's just too easy to jump on Uber hate bandwagon but I seriously hope their bubble will just burst in 2017, then the whole "economy of sharing" will take a hit and similiar services will start show some maturity. Contract of employment would be a good start.
Also what with ECC? Ryzen can support it or not?