It's called the Holocene extinction and it's happening right now.

> You mean the war that all the European countries participated in?

That's just factually incorrect. Most European countries did not take part in the invasion of Iraq. The US famously renamed French fries in protest.

The only ones that didn’t are France, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg, and Greece. The rest all did. This cohort changed its mind with Libya and Syria not too long after though.

> The US famously renamed French fries in protest.

The same French who very famously made Israel the nuclear-capable pariah state that it is today.

Oh come on, only Poland and the UK joined in the original invasion. The later post invasion involvement by some NATO members was also minimal, not to mention all the non NATO countries that had no involvement. Why make such absurdly fallacious and easily disproven statements?

Italy, Spain, Denmark, The Netherlands, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Ukraine, Norway, Portugal. Which have I missed?

Even Germany is a dumb one, really. The only reason why they didn't participate is because they legally weren't allowed to. What they did do, however, is deploy huge numbers to various US bases around the world so that the US can have a larger deployment.

The only absurdity here is the idea that the European retconning is believable.

Yes it is I who am doing the retconning not the person claiming that tiny contingents of mostly non combat troops sent to Iraq after Bush declared "mission accomplished" in an effort to help clean up Americas mess and with a UN mandate constitutes involvement in the war by all European countries.

That's also quite incorrect. You're missing a lot of countries, like Austria, Switzerland, Ireland, Sweden, Finland, etc. etc.

Germany didn't lose ww2 because of engineering

Technically they said they "loosed" them, which arguably could be true.

Maybe.

I thought he meant loose, as in create two world wars

Yeah, that's probably just a typo, but you could argue that German engineering gave Germany the ability to "loose" war on the world.

Yes but the baker doesn't just give the cobbler money to buy bread and take a share in the shoe shop in return.

But there's nothing wrong with that. It's not a circle; it's an exchange. Like any transaction.

I like this abstraction. If the baker says “I could sell 10x more if only I had shoes that allowed me to bake faster” then the cobbler says, “split the growth with me and I’ll craft you all the shoes you want.”

The claim was circularity is evidence the business activity is fake.

Bad.

Smart people are very prone to using their intellectual abilities for self deception and rationalisation.

> do you think the CCP leaders are better?

Based on their public statements and policy actions, absolutely. America these days sounds and behaves like a country being run by absolute cretins.

I dunno it seems pretty irrational to me.

He could literally throw him under a bus and not suffer any legal consequences. It's probably 50/50 whether or not senate Republican would vote to impeach him after that.

What direction do you reckon support has been trending in the last month?

I have no information about that, and of course no one currently in Iran would dare say anything bad about the regime right now.

However, I find it hard to imagine anyone thinking:

"I didn't like the Islamic Republic, and I was pissed and afraid when they killed thousands of protestors, but now that some of the leaders have been killed by the US, I've changed my mind about the Islamic Republic."