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You could make the same argument about a 250 euro espresso machine and a 30 euro moka pot. If the materials are better and the buyer likes it, it’s worth it to them at least. I think most people who own an espresso machine understand it’s a luxury.


Moka and espresso machines produce different coffee though. They operate on the same principle but the pressures are much different.


So are coffee from a 250 EUR "espresso" machine and a higher-end one


No, coffee from a 250 EUR espresso machine and a higher end machine are still espresso. Stovetop doesn't make espresso coffee.

They are fundamentally different processes which product a completely different output.


I don't disagree that a moka pot and espresso are completely different processes, I'm saying that a 250 EUR espresso machine is not going to be capable of making actual espresso (barring stuff like Flair that takes away components to make it work).


But the facts are showing something else: https://www.delonghi.com/en-gb/products/coffee/manual-espres...

Just head to technical data and feel free to explain which parameter is wrong. Take the cheapest one, 213 euros. Is is 15 (12) bar of pressure? Some other type of heater, as 1300 Watts of input power is not enough?

Seriously, I don't understand what the limiting factor is? Not expensive enough?

I even tried to find explanation by Hoffman and:

- cheaper

- plastic, not a lot of metal

- light

- small drip tray

- you need to "grip" it, whatever that means

- if you are clumsy you press buttons

- what you would expect for the money

But nothing about the taste of espresso... ;)

Somehow it looks not luxurious enough, right?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L7WniyTqV9I


Lack of temperature control is a minus, as that means that there will be some blends that won't taste good, these days most fancy machines have a pid (and if yours doesn't you should install it, or you are missing out).

Kind of related, lack of boiler at 1.5 atm means non-great milk foaming capabilities.

Also, you buy a good 1500$ machine, your grandchildren will be able to inherit it if you take care of it. That delhongi won't last two days further than the minimum required by guarantee.


For 1000$ difference in price, I wont buy those blends, there are zillions of others to try. So simple. Anyway, I have checked and there is some temperature control + you can get more if you turn up the steam making and turn back to espresso making. A "hack".

About milk foaming, you are talking about this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7tS99wwpSI as I dont see any issue with the foam. I do see skill.

Anyway, a life hack, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007334888419.html, 0.91$ replacement for 1000$ boiler. And it does wonderful foam, was using it 10 years back on 1xAA battery.

So, if I buy 5x Dedica (edit, just checked: 167 euro in my country, so it is actually 8x) for the price, and package them NEW for my grandchildren, this doesnt count?


Actually higher end ones are at 20.000 euros, so I will rather drink my 6666 espressos in bar, made by professional, on 20k euros machine with zero effort. I am good for next 18 years.


It is a different type of coffee, you cant compare.

And "understanding it is a luxury" is why the prices are extreme.


I really enjoy using Zed whenever I can. It’s incredibly snappy and has a clean UI. I agree with some of the other sentiments in this thread that I wish that the developers would focus more on some core IDE features. If Zed had better Git integration and remote support, I could switch over to it full time.


For me it's the lack of support for more languages that is stopping me... But as I write this I just went to have a look and it looks like they've just added a whole bunch in the last few months!

e.g. https://zed.dev/docs/languages/dart


I’ve used VSCode extensively because of its flexibility, remote extension, and (decent) speed. I enjoyed IntelliJ in the past, but I encountered countless performance issues on larger projects. This could be partially due to a subpar configuration, but over time I just gave up on IntelliJ and just used VSCode because it _just worked_.


There’s too much variation in size of wires and pipes for it to work well. Wires may also be tucked back farther on the stud.


I’d imagine 16 hours is a low estimate if OP wants to retain formatting.


The “cheap” saws in this scenario are still several hundred dollars. A SawStop is made well enough to withstand multiple activations and costs $100 for a new cartridge plus the cost of a new blade. It’s kind of a situation where it’s “cheap to be rich.”


> a situation where it’s “cheap to be rich.”

Sure. Sort of like methanol. As a society, we sometimes raise the (legal) floor even if it helps those at the margin. Not commenting on this policy alone. But one could make the same argument about seatbelts, airbags, flame-retardant bedwear or anything else purchased privately with lethal consequences.


For (2), I believe SawStops do have an override switch to disable the protection just for this reason.


This isn’t realistic. Table saws are central to many hobbyist workshops and good table saw weigh several hundred pounds. Renting a table saw is far too inconvenient for most.


I just drove across this bridge today. Always a great journey.


I have a hard time believing that Apple is incapable of providing at least a limited API for the Apple Watch. I wouldn’t expect full feature parity when using an Apple Watch with an Android phone, but even some basic functionality like texting and simpler notifications could have helped avoid this legal trouble.


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