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Does this give us any indication on when Apple will be ditching x86 support?


Late 2027 or 2028 most likely. MacOS version lifespan is about 3 years give or take so we'll have a better idea once they announce whether or not MacOS 16 (Sequoia's successor) will support Intel Macs.

I have a hunch we'll get one more MacOS version with Intel support since they were still making Mac Minis and Pros with Intel chips in the first half of 2023.


any day now, usually after 6-7 years after hardware releases.


We probably have a few more years to go then. Consider that they were still selling Mac Pro 2019 Intel systems as late as June, 2023.


I'm not convinced this year's OS release will support Intel. When they switched to Intel, Apple was quicker to dump PowerPC than people remember.


I'd be surprised if they don't support it for at least one more release. With Intel, they discontinued the PowerPC systems much faster (by the end of 2006.) They were still selling Intel hardware 2 years ago, a couple years into the ARM / Apple Silicon transition.


no, simplex chat is https://simplex.chat/


No, my RandomThingie is even *-er


Ain't no one using a chat app named after a virus I have on my lips.

But actually, I imagine there's significant friction to using a new "hyper-secure application" after the encrochat debacle.


5 hours 20 minutes, wow


I’ve got my own qualms with lex, but when it comes to programming content, he does a good job just facilitating and letting things flow.

More programmers Lex!


I would say more normies.

Only after Lex started talking to politicians I realized how dull they are.

Just compare Aella and Netaniahu or Peter Levels and Trump. Or Narendra Modi and ThePromeagean.


I wouldn't class world leaders together with politicians. If you find the heads of state boring that's fine I guess, but some of us find long form interviews with the political leaders of major countries fascinating. Keep them coming, Lex.


True, but some people in the process of moving to Linux depend on workflows that work on Mac only (at least until they fully moved to Linux). For me this was: Davinci Resolve (no h.264 support on Linux) and Adobe Suite - that I could continue to use. The compelling case for hackintosh is that you can dual boot it if you need to.


I would love to know more about this. Would it not be (at least theoretically) possible to hackintosh ARM, as Asahi Linux reverse engineered at least some parts of the M series?


Exactly! And even if Sequoia is the last OS to have Intel support, it will be some years before it stops receiving updates. Currently you are only missing out on "Apple Intelligence" when using Hackintosh or Intel Mac - some even think abut this as a feature rather than a bug


To quote Louis Rossmann: "tldr: install Librewolf and go on with your life" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bTquKjzos


Hackintoshing supports internal GPUs (iGPU) as well (not only RX 580) - and lots of people install on their Lenovo Thinkpads or other notebooks.


ARM processors significantly differ from Apple Silicon. Apple's M series are not fully compliant with the ARM64 ISA and contain undocumented instructions. There was a discussion about that a few month ago on /r/hackintosh https://www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/1c9rfdz/is_hack...


> "Apple's M series are not fully compliant with the ARM64 ISA"

Do you have a source/evidence for this claim (other than a reddit comment)? Apple's processors are (should be) not only fully compliant with the ARM64 ISA (AArch64), but Apple actively contributes to defining new revisions of the ISA.

It's true that M series has had some private extensions. eg: the TSO memory model to support Rosetta, and the AMX matrix co-processor. But that doesn't mean they aren't fully compliant with the ISA. And in any case, as of the M4 CPU, Apple have reportedly replaced AMX with the new, official ARM SME matrix instructions anyway.


The power savings of new computers are not relevant if compared with the energy that is needed to build them. University of Edinburgh (2016) found that by extending the lifetime of a single computer and monitor from four years to six years, approximately 190 kgCO2e of carbon emissions are avoided (I doubt anyone is using their devices even 4 years nowadays). Report is here: https://edwebcontent.ed.ac.uk/sites/default/files/atoms/file...


You can see it straight from the horse's mouth, too. On pages 13 and 14 [1], they estimate that between 9 and 23% of the total lifetime emissions for a Mac mini come from using it. The rest is manufacturing and distribution.

According to the fine print, the lifecycle of the computer is determined by some ISO standards and I spent a good 10 minutes searching the web to determine a ballpark figure for this (3 years? 5 years? 10 years?) and came up completely empty.

[1] https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/products/desktops/Mac_...


The nice thing is that all those new x86 laptops are going to keep being slower than my 2020 M1 mini unless they're high spec, so software/websites are still built with that in mind.


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