I’d be curious about that web to kindle one you built. Mind sharing?

Some of your points are addressed by: https://github.com/apple/password-manager-resources

Except it wasn’t for all users. IIRC it either didn’t show for all, or it was the WinRAR equivalent of you being able to say “maybe later” and it left you alone for a long while.

At the rate that people claim AWS us-east to go down, folks will argue that OVH has a tendency to go up in flames!

Can you describe your setup on how you use LLMs within Emacs?

Of course.

I've tried different AI packages and currently gptel and ECA remain the main ingredients. This is a quickly changing landscape, and things may change, but for now it feels very good.

I like gptel because it's enormously extendable and exploitable - it allows me to send LLM requests from just about anywhere - I could be typing a message (like this very one) and suddenly in need of ideas for how to phrase something better, or explain simply, or fact-check my assumptions, whatever. Quick & dirty interaction that gets discarded in the same buffer. For longer investigations and research I would use a dedicated gptel buffer. Those get automatically saved.

I don't use gptel as a coding assistant, even though you can do that, it's not really optimized for that kind of work. I use ECA. It works much better for me than every other alternative I tried, and I tried more than a few. What's crazy that I sometimes would type a prompt in ECA, then ask gptel (with a different model) to make it more "AI-friendly" changing the prompt in-place and then send it.

All my MCPs are coded in Clojure (mostly babashka)¹ - because (like I said) giving an AI a Lisp REPL makes much more sense (maybe even more than using a statically typed language). I had to employ a few tricks so all the tools, skills and instructions can be shared between gptel, eca-emacs, ECA Desktop, Claude Code CLI, Claude Desktop App, and Copilot CLI. Even though I mostly use gptel and ECA, it's good to keep other options around, just in case. All the AI-related Emacs settings are in my config².

Is this helpful, or you want some more concrete examples?

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¹ https://github.com/agzam/death-contraptions

² https://github.com/agzam/.doom.d/tree/main/modules/custom/ai

I’d like a concrete example on how you’re actually controlling emacs with LLMs. Is ECA the part that does that?

gptel has the built-in elisp eval tool. ECA doesn't have it built-in, I use my custom MCP (I posted the link in the comment above).

This is good stuff :) Honestly, I am having a lot of fun just using org mode files as prompts and eventually output for a Claude Code instance in vterm. All these files get saved with the output and magit is of course amazing, just good affordances and history keeping.

(setopt gptel-default-mode 'org-mode)

For persistence:

https://github.com/agzam/.doom.d/blob/main/modules/custom/ai...

For context, David Kriesel gave the infamous talk called “BahnMining” at 36C3 highlighting this. IIUC it’s only available in German: https://youtu.be/0rb9CfOvojk

Watch the original, there you can select an English simultaneous translation: https://media.ccc.de/v/36c3-10652-bahnmining_-_punktlichkeit...

What makes you think that? Genuine question, as I’ve not flagged it as such in my mind.

Ok I’ll bite. Was it worth it? What have people missed that haven’t used it.

I like https://lookscanned.io/

As an aside: have you thought about using agent-shell?

https://github.com/xenodium/agent-shell