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In reality we all know that you care more about bullshit voter fraud than actual voter suppression.


Not really. You could hang out here instead.


Which part was the mistake? Breaking in, looting, parading the confederate flag, killing a cop, insurrection?


Blind partisan hatred is a mistake.

Besides that, the people responsible for violent crimes will very likely be prosecuted and harshly punished. The message "go home peacefully" is irrelevant for those people and is probably intended for everyone else. Looting is bad, but it's "jail time" bad and not "undying hatred" bad. It's okay to show some compassion to looters while telling them to change their behavior.


Yes! They could get Peter Thiel back on board. It would be like old times.


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It is to people who get furious at the thought of a gay wedding.


Yes, after four years of the Trump administration, this is what we'll scratch our heads about. This is what will seem strange and surreal and irrational. Absolutely.


> banning the president - who said LEAVE IN PEACE is what we should be doing

He read that, in the usual monotone he reserves for words he doesn't believe for a second. Did you actually believe he was sincere?


I'm not sure of this, but I have a hypothesis that you're misunderstanding the Trump phenomenon.

Here's the idea to consider: Trump was sincere! Trump is basically always sincere. Even when he contradicts himself in a matter of minutes. He is a master bullshitter who grew up going to Normal Vincent Peale's church. His entire life is built on the idea that it's all a stage, all a game. The RESULT of that is: he's extremely practiced at coming up with stories and convincing himself. In other words, self-deception. He knows he's bullshitting, but he doesn't think a reality beyond bullshitting exists. He believes what he says all the time. That's why he doesn't give the normal tells that indicate shifty lying and deception. Unlike the other politicians who are obviously being calculating and withholding their real thoughts, Trump is transparent. He's saying exactly what he actually thinks, and even when it is complete oxymoronic, he experiences no cognitive dissonance. He's not really lying in the normal sense, he's delusional.

Check out https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/episodes/91612...

Trump is the ultimate self-deceiver. That's why his followers find him so appealing. He's authentic in that you can tell he really does say what he thinks and doesn't hold back. It's just that his mind is so constantly focused on whatever will get people to like him and otherwise what serves his interest, the content of his beliefs is similar to what it would be if he were consciously being deceptive. But if he were concerned about his stories being consistent and believable in content, he'd get all nervous and seem more like a liar. He's able to talk with sincerity because he doesn't care if his stories make sense, even as bullshit he still believes them for himself, at least enough to say the things in earnest.

Of course, I don't really know, but this would explain part of how it's possible for so many people to have still seen him as honest despite the plainly factually wrong things that come out of him.


That's not really up for you specifically to decide. He said it though.


If being a billionaire doesn't allow you give the finger to the stupidest people in America, what's the point?


First they came for the National Socialists.


Oh puhleez. Now it's Reddit's fault? The rest of us are supposed to spend our time keeping these wingnuts from radicalizing themselves?


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No, you should attack the strongest interpretation of my argument, which is that banning communities only lead to them regrouping and becoming even more polarised and radical.

As it has happened here.


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