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The Netherlands are the biggest re-exporter of fruits and vegs. In terms of both quantity and value, they are behind Spain:

https://www.freshplaza.com/article/2135083/netherlands-world...


> The Netherlands is the biggest exporter of fresh vegetables though, both looking at quantity and value


> "science-education-ism". My phrase - I don't know of a real one... anyone?

Ever since I first read it in "The Science of Discworld" I've called that "Lies-to-children" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie-to-children):

A lie-to-children (plural lies-to-children) is a simplified explanation of technical or complex subjects as a teaching method for children and laypeople.


Thanks. I also had in mind the idea of a topic that's taught as if it was important to the field, but isn't, independently of its accuracy. So "question doesn't arise", rather than "different answer".


> As someone who's only touched Ruby for a few years

Well... Gemfile.lock has nothing to do with rails and all to do with Bundler, but if you've never used Bundler for dependency management it's possible that it's new to you.

But Bundler (and the Gemfile and Gemfile.lock) are one of the core components of rails, they even get mentioned in the getting started page (https://guides.rubyonrails.org/getting_started.html).

I only have a couple of years of experience with rails and haven't touched it in 6 years, but I'd be very sceptical of any article that tries to teach how to build projects in rails and doesn't even get those basics right.


I used NN3 and 4 back in the day (and still do, kinda, Firefox is still my main browser), but man, writing CSS for Netscape was a nightmare!

I still remember that weird bug that forced everyone to create a single, empty, invisible DIV at the beginning of the page if you wanted to set absolute positions for the other DIVs in the page.

In Javascript land, we all had our little script to detect the browser and do things like finding the element you wanted (IIRC, only IE had find by id).

All in all, I miss the carefulness webdevs had to have at the time (I remember uglifying my files by hand to make everything weight less than 24KB, which was the self-imposed limit we had at the dotcom I worked at) but, in general, I don't miss those days at all.


NN didn't actually do CSS, it did JSS (Javascript Style Sheets, something Netscape hoped would fly) with an added translation layer. That meant that you could only style an element through its hierarchy (since there was no equivalent of IE's document.all in Netscape's DOM). $DEITY help you if you were trying to do a hybrid tables/CSS thing, especially with nested tables.


Not only for macs... I have 4 raspberry pi4 powered through an USB hub and spent quite a bit of time looking for one that had at least 4 ports and that every port could deliver a minimum of 5V-3A. The US amazon had a few, but trying to find them (or similar) in several european Amazons was quite difficult.


> and that every port could deliver a minimum of 5V-3A.

For the pi, “at the same time” is what most hubs seem to miss - often they can supply 3A per port, but not ports * 3A overall. (60W on 6-10 ports is a typical config, so you can pull 12-15W per port, but not 6 * 12+ overall.


Good HDMI capable usb-c hubs below 20 USD? Hmm, I cannot find anything similar priced in NL. I would prefer to have one that can do 2x HDMI as not all workplaces I sit have usb-c capable monitors. When I was checking a while back it seems to have a weird pricing gap between ones that have 1 or 2 HDMI outputs. More than twice the price.


Any chance of a link? I'm looking good something to power a Pi4 cluster. Thanks


I ended up going with this one: https://thepihut.com/products/anidees-6-port-smart-ic-usb-ch...

Have had it for a couple of months now with no issues.


Thanks


AFAIK that 3A figure for the Pi includes power for the USB ports on the Pi. So if you don't load up the USB ports, you can get away with more like 1.5-2A, depending on what you do.


Thanks. I intend to use it as a cluster ski no need for USB peripherals, I'll keep that in mind!


FWIW my 4GB RPi 4 pulls about 1.2A peak when using the CPU full tilt. Haven't stressed the GPU yet so don't know about that. This without any USB except wireless Logitech keyboard/mouse receiver, and with Wifi enabled.


Useful information thanks. That's much lower than the recommended 3A.


You have some model numbers handy? Which one are you currently using?


For amazon.com, there were a few from Anker (one was mentioned in another comment) that looked interesting... As I said, no luck finding them in europe.

I ended up going with this one: https://thepihut.com/products/anidees-6-port-smart-ic-usb-ch...


One of Anker's raisons d'être is high current USB ports, so I'd be shocked if they couldn't do 3A.

I did not realize they were not available in the EU though. It looks like they list on Amazon UK, not sure how helpful that is.


I remember when the anti-glare was the default and you had to pay a few quid more for the glossy.

Then they changed so the default was glossy and anti-glare was more expensive (but, IIRC, had more resolution).

The retina display is the first one I remember where the anti-glare option was not available.


You're correct the 2012 model was when they stopped offering the Anti-glare screen - it was 1680x1050(if i recall?) compared to the default glossy screen's 1440x900, i recall there also being a 1680x1050 glossy display upgrade available too, at a glance the two could be distinguished by the aluminium bezel on the anti-glare display.

I picked up a grey market anti-glare display assembly (upper clamshell) for my 2011 model back in 2012 or so and it dutifully served another few years.


Probably through the votes the different parties got in the general elections of 1977:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_Spanish_general_election


If so, that's poor evidence, because it ignores tactical voting.


Well, is your opinion that people does not vote thinking in their best interest.

In all democracies people speak freely about what they want with their vote. Enquiries don't count. Theaters with rigged ballots should not count. Real elections is how people choose freely, and the most accurate data that we can have. Everything else is propaganda and brag about your millions of follobots in twitter.

If you vote parties against independence you don't support independence. Point. A referendum will not change that. Four legal elections in five years are more than enough to make this point clear.

If you vote PACMA, the animalist party that don't even consider independence in their program, you want stopping animal cruelty and don't support independence either. Podemos don't even know if they should be called "Unidos Podemos" or "Unidas igual Podrían".

Maybe tomorrow everybody will vote independence, but this is not data currently. Is possible also that nobody will do.

And we should not forget that not all people that participated in separatist acts are separatists. "Some people just want to see the world burning". A 13% of the people detained in warcelona were european foreigners with a past interest in anarchy and trained in urban war. They couldn't care less about Cuckooloonian nation, and came for the thrills, food and free TVs.

Spain is much more than that, and is easy to find lots of perfectly nice places with great people that will not act as holier than thou all the time.


> is your opinion that people does not vote thinking in their best interest.

No, that's the (in my view, paternalistic) view of the people who claim the independentist Catalonians are all just puppets in the hands of a few evil leaders.

Tactical voting means they are, in their own best interest, choosing either the least bad option, or an option that will get them one step towards their ultimate goal, and voting for Autonomy in 1977 is consistent with that.

> If you vote parties against independence you don't support independence. Point.

Maybe. Which parties stated they were openly against independence in 1977, and how many votes did they get?

The rest of your post seems to be about the current situation, which is not what I asked about. If I want opinions on that by Spanish people, I can just ask half of my family.


> Which parties stated they were openly against independence in 1977, and how many votes did they get?

I don't know. I don't live in the past, but take in mind that is a different world in 2019.

In 1977 Jordi Pujol was a well respected citizen and everybody and their dog loved it. Today we know that was also a criminal, judged for bribery, influence peddling, tax crime, money laundering, prevarication, embezzlement and falsehood.

Their sucessor, Arthur Mas was "da bomb" in 2002. Now has also a criminal record, burned millions of euro in many doubtful adventures, and is inhabilited by disobedience.

The sucessor of Mas, Puigdemont, is a walking joke that pushed catalonian people to the clift border and declared the republic, just to suspend it two seconds later. (Surprise! I was just joking all this time!). He escaped to Belgium with his tail between his legs, and has an euroarrest warrant aiming to judge him for several non-trivial crimes

The sucessor of Puigemont, Torra is a mess that has encouraged people to disobey the same government that represents. He blocks roads in the morning and send the police against the people that block roads in the evening. Under the excuse of being opressed by Franco, youngsters had caused damages by 2.5 million euro in Barcelona, and now Torra is disperately searching how to gracefully stop the situation that he has purposely created.

Times had changed and this emperor is looking uglier and more naked each minute. Is always nice to talk with the family, but everybody can benefit from an external and wider point of view


> I don't know. I don't live in the past, but take in mind that is a different world in 2019.

Yes, but this thread started with a claim about the past, which I asked what it was based on. It's not nice to derail it to push your own opinions.

> Is always nice to talk with the family, but everybody can benefit from an external and wider point of view

I was just making the point that I'm not some foreigner reading about Catalonia on a couple of Salon articles. I get plenty of points of view from Spanish newspapers, TV, books, friends, coworkers, and random people I meet during my annual stay in my family home.


Leukaemia survivor here... It might be a stupid question and everyone is different, but have you tried fresh fruit and ginger ale?

I went through six months where that was all I could eat/drink. Another patient in the ward suggested ginger ale and it was a surprise (had never drank it before... or since).

Nausea got so bad that even thinking about it (for example when a doctor asked) would trigger throwing up so I get what you mean about PTSD.

All my best wishes for you both.


Not stupid at all!! For a while apple slices and peanut butter were a staple but she throws that up regularly now. Blueberries are still good if mixed with something, a little watermelon.

Haven’t tried ginger ale, but will pick some up today. She says she doesn’t like it but we’ll give it a shot. Thanks for the suggestion!


Fresh ginger tea (using a finger length of whole ginger root, minced) works really, REALLY well for nausea.


I completely agree with you.

The thing is, I might be able to see this "working" in very simple and limited processes[0]... But going back to your example of the nasty bug in complex software, I believe the post's idea is that you shouldn't fix the bug in the layer it's happening, but, instead, write a new b-thread that corrects that behavior.

Which might sound nice in theory but I feel it's much more likely that you won't be able to fix it there (the info you need might be lost in a previous b-thread) or become a piece of code so complex that negates any supposedly benefit that this system had in the first place.

[0] It might be just me and completely off-topic, but this reminds me a bit of rule-based expert systems, where the rules get activated by certain conditions and produce effects (that can activate other rules). The idea was always that you could model very complex (and emerging) behaviors based on very simple, human readable rules. The thing is that you could definitely add/tweak/remove the rules as needed.


Maybe that data doesn't exist in your country.

In mine, the police has the picture and fingerprints of everyone older than 12 years old and any younger person that needed an ID card for whatever reason, travelling being just one.

Maybe that information has been shared with that database, maybe it hasn't. I have no way of knowing. Other EU countries have the same level of information about their citizens (and some record even more data).

Can we simply agree that what the UK has done is bad, should be investigated and, if true, the people resposible should face charges for it? Or should we spend days arguing about what information might/might not have been copied and how many people have been afected?


I'm downvoting all the comments about "my country" without saying which country that is.

No useful discussion can result from comments like this.


A bit late to the discussion, but does it really change that much if, instead of "my country", I say "Spain"?

In this case Spain hasn't done anything wrong (the data gathering for the id cards was done before entering the EU and complies with EU's regulations[0]). Other EU countries gather less or more data according to their specific legislations.

The country in question here is the UK and, to a lesser extent, the US. Specifics about other EU countries are, IMHO, irrelevant.

[0] Another question, for a different discussion, is if they should record all that data.


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