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Can you use signal?


They could, but its unlikely other people in their network will.


some of us do but the adoption is too low for any meaningful network effect


Are you kidding? They have literally been the most progressive tech advocacy group in history. I’ve been donating annually since it was founded. They’ve been consistent. Maybe you’ve moved more to the right?


Historically, the EFF has been very pro free-speech. Now it seems like they're in the free-speech-but-only-if-we-agree-with-you camp.


Can you provide examples? I don't feel like opting out of data collection is a very good example there.

I definitely feel like the ACLU took a turn for the worse in that direction a few years ago. I'll be sad if the EFF is also headed that direction - they've struck me as one of the only ones that's still willing to stand on principle


In this very post, the EFF premise is that you are upset about Meta’s shift to less censorship. Meta’s new policies are a win for free speech.


There's a huge difference between "acknowledging other people are upset" and "actively advocating against freedom of speech".


Being in support of free speech doesn't mean being explicitly tolerant of every possible opinion or political/philosophical/ethical viewpoint. I can assure you without any doubt that EFF is not sitting there fighting for someone to advocate for genocide, for example.

Further, defending privacy and free speech also means protecting from people/institutions which would act against privacy and free speech, i.e. the "paradox of tolerance" is very relevant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance


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