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In behaving this way, he is erasing a tremendous amount of the goodwill he generated from his space and electric car businesses. The world's media, political, business, scientific elite are on Twitter and watching carefully. It's all very upsetting to watch. I hope that, as you've said, he finds a better management team to fix this ongoing trainwreck.


Elon erased his goodwill when he started his crypto pump and dump scams. Or there's the whole vaporware thing to sucker in more investors. Or there's the fact that he argued Ukraine should concede to Russia's demands.

No, I'm pretty sure this is just another in a long list of mistakes by Elon. I don't believe he knows what he's doing here.


And when Elon decided to call a rescue worker a pedophile. To me that demonstrated that Elon was willing to truly destroy people for merely offending him on social media. He later double-downed on the pedophile claim by elaborating on his reasoning for why he thought the rescue worker was a pedophile.


Elon clearly never admits mistakes involving his ego. Same with the discussion now with Kasparov where Elon clearly didn't know he was fighting the Putin regime for a long time, but still doubles down on his mistake.

This character trait will cost him a lot.


I think this turned a corner. He lost some credibility as a serious person with crypto pump and dump, and also with pedo guy, and with other shenanigans, but he had a trust fund of credibility from the other businesses.

This is one where his business acumen is under scrutiny too, that's a whole new game. But let's see, it's only the bottom of the first inning.


There’s some axiom here… something about wherever you get off the hype train, you still think the earlier stops made sense.

“It’s at X that he lost me.”


And in the process destroying so much. Twitter is going to lose most its value and be sold in a fire sale at some point. I doubt it will ever recover.

He’s destroying lives too. ~3700 Twitter employees got randomly fired. Maybe Twitter needed a haircut but 50%? Plus you know many of those people had spouses and children. Add that to the total. There are people whose entire income as software developers is for Twitter apps. If Twitter goes down they’re in trouble.

His other businesses are taking reputation hits by proxy (he doesn’t look like such a good/smart businessman anymore does he?).

And of course there are 40m daily active users. Even if only a small percentage really enjoy it that’s millions of people losing something they really like (like me).

All because he didn’t want to lose a $1B lawsuit and risk whatever would come out in discovery.

When this is over I just can’t see us ending up in anything but a net-negative for everyone.


Don't underestimate the value of witholding whatever was in those discovery text messages.


I’m not. I suspect it would have proved some kind of real fraud on his part, or more likely perjury. And he knew if that came out he’s be facing slam-dunk prison time (among other things).

I think it was the first real consequence he has had to face in a very long time and it was a BIG one. And he was so scared this was the better option.

That’s the theory that makes the most sense to me. The breakup fee of $1B was a lot of money but seems like he’ll lose way more than that in the end on this path.


> The breakup fee of $1B

There was no $1B breakup fee.


>All because he didn’t want to lose a $1B lawsuit and risk whatever would come out in discovery.

WTF are you talking about? In no world was there a $1B lawsuit. I don't know how anyone is possibly parroting that point given that it has been repeatedly debunked since it was first uttered. It's like someone read a contract, saw that $1B was mentioned somewhere in it and just decided that that would mean whatever the fuck they wanted it to mean. The lawsuit was almost certainly going to end with musk being forced to buy the company.


If he doesn't ruin twitter I will be sorely disappointed. I have no care at all for the twitter employees, you may as well ask me to sympathize with Phillip Morris workers getting laid off because cigarettes fall out of favor. The sooner he crashes that whole company into a wall, the better.


I share the author's personal investment in this topic. It was my first introduction to the web3 world, and it really showcases the potential of truly decentralized communities. Some of the flaws were visible, but overall how this community evolves and incorporates the input of its 17K participants will set up the norms and practices for DAOs for some time to come. I'm hoping that the community created here endures and continues to test and expand the boundaries of this new type of organization.


This is a very good point, policy making in Canada has shifted to an enormous degree to the courts. And the Supreme Court has also been very vocal about choosing its own members too [0]. The BBC had a lecture series [1] on something similar happening in the UK with the creation of their relatively new Supreme Court.

I'm not sure what the solution is, but perhaps provinces pushing back with the Notwithstanding clause will send a signal. It's tempting to be envious of the US and its more circumscribed constitution, but one good thing in Canada is that there's a mandatory retirement age at 75 for Supreme Court judges.

[0] https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/marc-nadon-sup...

[1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00057m9


There’s been something wonky about YouTube downvotes for a little while now. If you go any children’s video (I have two toddlers so am accessing them all the time), downvotes often outstrip upvotes. The reasons are unclear, maybe competitive pressure from rival channels astroturfing the votes? Take a look at this[0] video from Sesame Street, 1.3m downvotes for a fairly decent educational video, vs 1.7m upvotes? How is that even justified? I can’t blame YouTube for removing a metric which looks like is being manipulated on a massive level. [0] https://youtu.be/783EsrHchXA


I used to wonder about the same thing then I saw my toddler accidentally hit the downvote button.


It's due to accidental clicks from toddlers.


ICE’s have over a century of development behind them now. I’m not going to miss them, but I wonder if there’s a way to ‘archive’ this kind of specialist mechanical engineering knowledge. It may come in handy one day.

It’s depressing to read about engineers having to go to the Smithsonian to study the lunar lander to relearn some of the innovations and improvisations made at the time.


It seems inevitable that much of the practical knowledge is lost. Look at how few old sailing ships survive, despite that being the most advanced transportation technology for centuries. The schematics of the engines will survive, but future generations who study them will struggle to understand the design choices that went into them.

I’m happy that might change in the world of software, since so much collaboration is done online, and future historians will have troves of JIRA tickets to dig through.


> The schematics of the engines will survive, but future generations who study them will struggle to understand the design choices that went into them.

> I’m happy that might change in the world of software, since so much collaboration is done online, and future historians will have troves of JIRA tickets to dig through.

I doubt it. In my experience, JIRA tickets don't capture much information like that. Also, my employer at least has trouble maintaining actual design documents over the long term [1] that stuff that everyone views as transient has pretty much no chance.

Also, a lot of collaboration tools, while technically being more archiveable (e.g. slack, typical meeting recordings), are in practice so disorganized that they are rarely even useful as a long term reference for the teams that use them. Unless the team's software is truly world changing, I don't think any historians would bother.

Personally, I think the kinds of very formal processes that are unfashionable in the world of software are the ones that are most capable of capturing the reasoning behind design choices for future generations.

[1] stuff is spread across so many places, and a lot gets when we migrate from one enterprise collaboration system to another, or as teams reorganize.


A team of six or eight should have a dedicated scribe to link everything that is going on in one coherent whole. That role functions as the interface to the team and onboards new team member when people move on. A team without a scribe creates a new opening for that role for a noob to learn by doing.


> while technically being more archiveable (e.g. slack, typical meeting recordings), are in practice so disorganized

Think of all the papers this will produce for future historians!


One advantage ICE has over the historical preservation of sail is that cars as a collectors item are far easier to keep around, and much of the design artifacts will last much longer.

It's unlikely ICE cars will be banned from being driven in the next 30 years, if ever. Once electric is proliferated the effects of car enthusiasts will be negligible. Even if there are some bans, motorsport will hopefully continue.

Many car manufacturers run heritage parts programs and there is already a well established industry for maintaining the collector and enthusiast car fleet that has nothing to do with the new car cycle. People are engineering entirely new parts for old cars all the time, we won't be forgetting how ICE works for a while yet. Although the goal of all that engineering effort may shift from efficiency to efficacy in the form of motorsports parts.

I fully expect to have to keep barrels of E85 at my house so I can take my soon to be heritage vehicle to the track every now and then, but I don't see us forgetting how to engineer for combustion engines.


Will they? Most companies' internal systems are locked down and we'll suffer the same problem. Open source is the best way we have right now to preserve software knowledge.


I’d bet the hosted services will hold onto data forever, so that they can mine it.


I don’t remember the lunar lander, but I do recall reading how each rocket engine on the Saturn V was one of a kind, because the engineers had to assemble each one by hand, and each acted slightly differently. So there’s no way to reproduce a specific Saturn V engine now, but there also never was back when the Saturn V was still flying.


Genuine question: How is this different from a F1 engine where each piston head is crafted for each cylinder in the block? When you go high performance things that look like they're a commodity become one-of-a-kinds as you push them right to the limits.


Would we do any differently today? I think we gravitated towards smaller and more numerous engines (that are easier to construct to the same exact copies), but nobody since has built anything remotely as large as the Rocketdyne F1.


These days we have computational fluid dynamics. We can simulate many more things to make an easy to build design rather than making manual adjustments to each one.

There’s been little need for a liquid fuelled engine that large though due to advances in solid rockets in the US and Europe, and a focus away from super-heavy launch vehicles elsewhere.


You'd have to redesign it from scratch - it would be faster. Which is what happened with the SLS engine/launch vehicle.

Duplicating the F1 would involve technology and knowledge of individual engineers who are dead and corporations that no longer exist. The TACIT knowledge and technologies required to go with the blueprints died with them.

https://www.space.com/nasa-saturn-v-and-sls-compared.html

https://ourplnt.com/remake-rocketdyne-f-1-engine-humans-moon...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovD0aLdRUs0


The RD-170 is about the same as an F1 although it has 4 nozzles and 4 combustion chambers.


SpaceX pursues its business on a much larger and, most importantly, more regular schedule. In this case it is possible to standardize and mass produce many parts.


No there isn't.

Technology knowledge is extremely ephemeral and easily lost once you stop using it because so much of it is "tacit knowledge" that is only preserved by active use and passed by mentorship/apprenticeship.

We've lost many technologies this way. In some cases like FOGBANK and the recent B2 bomber heat exchange system, there was enough incentive to reconstruct it from scratch at great cost. For most lost technologies, that incentive will never exist. If you are very, very lucky, some other country will maintain it by continuing to manufacture it.

This is a major reason why "bringing manufacturing back to the US" is so hard. We literally lack the technology/knowledge context as a society to do that most of the time. It's like pondering a semiconductor fab project in Chad or Sudan!

Otherwise it becomes like pyramids and monoliths that some "moderns" can't imagine came from anything other than space aliens! "They couldn't have made anything like that back then because we can't do it today."


Well yes and no. Sometimes you can bring the industry back, but with a newer generation of technology. High capital investment industries like manufacturing I think are particularly amenable to generational leapfrogging because the original capital investors are very tempted to keep operating old methods for the margin. This gives an opening for any entity willing to make a new capital investment.

This is essentially what China did to a lot of US manufacturing, as well as SpaceX to old line aerospace giants.


Don’t even have to go back that far. US govt is calling for contractors to reverse engineer b2 bombers: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26333649


A B2 bomber and a completely unclassified car engine is a slightly different order of magnitude in terms of complexity.

If you want to run a current F1 car in 40 years time then you will need to RE it however because the Powertrain is complicated and totally custom


> If you want to run a current F1 car in 40 years

Never mind 40 years, F1 cars of even a couple years ago become impossible to run because just getting the engine started requires custom equipment and knowledge that often doesn't seem to be preserved year to year.


I think we have already "lost" similar amounts of knowledge when the mechanical typewriters went away. And the mechanical calculators (and mechanical clocks?).

Or have you recently looked through a book on vacuum tube circuit design? Even more modern transistor-based analog circuit design is going to fade somewhat, as more and more parts of devices are moved to digital circuits.

It is a little terrifying and sad to see how many incredible ideas, that took a lot of smart people to develop, are basically thrown away over time.


For posterity, I wish all this information would make its way to a public repo as to not be lost in the sands of time.


What purpose should such a repo serve? The most common ones are museums. Yes, they are not perfect, and it is easy to oversimplify and misinterpret what is presented there.

If you want to preserve it for survivors of civilisational collapse, then it has to be codified and simplified first. Well done, a civilization could jump tech levels much quicker than if they had had to bootstrap everything first.


I know what you mean, but at the same time that’s just how tacit knowledge works. How many times have you looked back at software you wrote 4+ years ago. There are lines of code in there that you can’t remember the reason for that look strange or out of place, but you have a vague sense that they do something important. The actual knowledge is gone and the only way to rediscover it is via re-working the problem.

If we stop making ICE cars then a lot of the tech around them will be lost, but chances are we won’t care a whole lot because electric cars will be better for most people in most ways, and ICE cars will live on as a historical curiosity.


I just paid a blacksmith to teach me to forge weld. Someday maybe bored middle-class folks will pay to learn to change oil on a v8 between marathons.




Ah, so its purely from a historical preservation angle. Is there a point with $80 Amazon stick welders available?


That's amazing. Do you have any more such channels, on rebuilding after an apocalypse?

What about books on skillsets necessary?


> ICE’s have over a century of development behind them now. I’m not going to miss them

They will mostly disappear from cars, and (more slowly) even trucks, but they are still going to be around for a lot longer in other applications – backup generators, heavy construction and mining equipment, the military, locomotives, smaller aircraft, ships and boats, etc.

We may well start to lose some knowledge about how to design ICEs optimised for specific use cases, we aren't anywhere near forgetting how to design ICEs in the general case.


Yeah, it's always a real shame when that happens. We have the internet, now, at least, hopefully lots can and will be made available once ICE falls further out of favor.

I'd read recently something similar about Colt. Not only did they 'lose' their bluing formula, but apparently never documented much about their smithing process, as they had trouble hand fitting revolvers due to a knowledge gap.


At the front of my mind are aircraft piston engines, which haven't progressed much beyond the 60s. One notable exception are the Diamond Astro engines, which are based on mercedes blocks.

Seeing as mass scale ICE development is probably a deadend, hopefully the current state of engines will hold over until battery energy densities become viable for light aircraft (an extremely selfish desire, i admit).


Lack of civilian aviation development is a result of misguided regulation. "OMG stuff is dangerous, lets require expensive certification for even the most trivial things ... except for the dangerous stuff that is already in use right now" and then we end up with brand new 2021 Helicopters shipping with 70 year old Lycoming engines.


Even if we get to 99% EV within fifty years, it’s going to be a long while after that before EV takes over 100.000% of ICE.


There are something like 1.4 billion vehicles in operation world wide and 80 million new vehicles are sold every year.

That is at most 17 years once new vehicle sales are effectively 100% electric which will probably happen around 2030. The value of used gas cars will deteriorate rapidly as the spare parts and repair networks disappear and electric vehicle costs become much cheaper pulling forward demand for the transition to electric.


You making a lot of assumptions that arent born out by current experience. Its not uncommon for 100 year old cars to be registered and driven on public roads today. I personally have registered “daily drivers” from the 1970s and 80s. I actually rebuilt my 1972 motorcycle using factory parts from the dealership. As cars get rare they tend to increase in value, which also increases the return on effort/money put in to them. The “last running ICE car” is going to be a prized gem in a collection, not scrap metal.


and when 90+ precent of the cars on the road are EV - where are you going to get gasoline? or think how much an oil change will cost when motor oil becomes a specialty item

> You making a lot of assumptions that arent born out by current experience

current experience assume easy access to gasoline and motor oil that has been true for 100 years - that will pass in time


I've been wondering if the cutoff is actually much earlier. Say 50% of cars on the road are EV, how many gas stations can continue to run profitably with 50% less customers? Even getting and refining the gas requires massive global supply chains to transport and refine, what happens when there's a 50% drop in customers? Do they lose their efficiencies of scale? Do prices rise substantially as this happens?

I suspect once we reach a certain thresholds it will create other push factors toward EV's and accelerate their adoption.


It is my understanding that refineries cannot change the percentage of gasoline that comes from a barrel of oil. If electric cars become as popular as ICE, either gasoline will be used in other things, or other oil distillates will become very expensive. Likely no more cheap air travel, propane, etc.

I expect we will hit a wall that will inhibit adoption.


I'm not a petrochemist, but I think reforming/cracking is an old technology which allows you to produce syngas and smaller alkanes (methane, propane etc).


Gas stations are an interesting case, because most of them make most of their money selling snacks and beer. The gas money largely goes to the oil company.


I believe this is right, but gas is still the main reason people stop there. If people aren't stopping to buy gas then they will not be making their impulse/convenience purchases and the gas station still loses their profits.

It's somewhat more complicated because many also function as convenience stores, but most convenience stores near me have already died so I doubt that would save them.


On the other hand if you're stopping there for a charge, you'll be spending longer and have more time to consider just popping in for a snack.


That will work for some, most notably the big ones on the side of highways, but I assumed most people would be charging at home, at least for city driving. The earliest adopters will also be the most wealthy that are more likely to have rooftop solar to leverage.


Then they are gonna be safe. s/gas/EV charging


I have one, too. Not really as a daily driver, gas mileage just sucks. When the daily driver is about to be replaced one day, it will certainly be by an EV.

I think that the main issue will be maintenance of ICEs in the future. Like try to find a garage that is able to tube carburators these days. It will be a while until we reach that point so.


You can DIY mod carb engine to EFI using plethora of cheap user programmable ECU modules and oem/salvage yard parts, its almost Lego at this point in time with everything understood and tons of documentation in the open. Throttle body, MAF, Lambda sensor, one fuel injector, fuel pressure reg, fuel pump, crankshaft position sensor, ECU, laptop to program and tune the ECU, all in all <$500. As a bonus you get to delete distributor and convert to electronic ignition for free. There are even plug&play kits for early troublesome mechanical fuel injection systems in ~$600-1000 range https://kjetkillers.pl/en_US/c/EFI-Electronic-Fuel-Injection...

You dont need top of the line $1700 Haltech elite 2500 or Link G4X FuryX if you arent seriously racing.

~$350 full standalone ecu http://ottomotive.pl/sklep/komputery-standalone/easyecu-2-pl... or http://ecu-shop.eu/produkt/ottomotive-easyecu-micro/

~$150 simple piggyback able to work in standalone mode http://ottomotive.pl/sklep/komputery-piggyback/digital-ecu-c...


Maybe one day! I also have the option to take the EFI from one of the following model years. I suck at electronics, and the wiring is already a royal mess (wasn't me so!).


Exactly why I brought up very early cars and my carb’d motorcycle. They go out of common use but dont disappear anymore than carriages or horses have. Fully urbanised and developed countries have them as a collection or passion project and do silly things like bodge or manufacture specialty parts and fuel blends while reading esoteric haynes manuals on carb tuning. Meanwhile they remain commonplace where it makes sense, small portable two strokes, aircraft, developing nations, etc.

The thought that civilization is going complete displace and lose hydrocarbon based engines and logistics in 17 years... Its optimistic I guess?


Well, you still get OEM parts for Zenith carbs from the 60s. So I guess there will always be a rest of ICE powered cars. I wouldn't mind using green fuel or gas. Which might be the way forward for classics, mainstream I honestly only see EVs and fuel cells in the developed world.


Museum pieces are not what we are talking about here.


That would be true if the oldest cars are being removed from the pool, but that isn't how it works. Cars crash, some models wear out, some just have too little resale value to keep going, etc so they're removed from the pool earlier. Other cars are very desirable so they're get around much longer. It's not a perfect circular system.


I was talking about the proportion of the worldwide fleet, not proportion of new sales. Remember, not all vehicles are passenger cars. And not all vehicles always near electric infrastructure.


I don't know about that, consider other tech that got superseded by new methods. It only took a couple of decades for there to be no companies manufacturing CRT TVs any more.


The use cases of vehicles are much wider than the use cases of TVs.


fifty years? no way. But even if you're right, what point are you trying to make?


My point is that there's a long tail of vehicles out there. Whether the fleet transition from ICE to EV is fast or slow, getting the long tail fully transitioned in a similar timeframe is implausible.

Heck, we haven't even transitioned 100.000% away from horses yet.


It's fortunate that Pfizer/BioNTech chose the whole spike protein mRNA as their vaccine candidate over the one that focused just on the receptor binding domain -- which the UK mutation changed. Wise choice, and hopefully it will work well against this new variant. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2027906

Moderna's vaccine was focused on the whole spike protein too. So even though there are crucial mutations in this mutation, both leading vaccine candidates hopefully will still be effective.


There's Messenger Lite, I think meant for low internet connection speeds and free of a lot of bloat. Hopefully the antitrust lawsuit will keep Zuck from getting too egregious and getting rid of that too, but who knows.


I'm moving away from Android (after 10 years) to iOS for exactly this reason. Not much sympathy for FB on my end.


As a general tech enthusiast I jump back and forth between both ecosystems fairly often, but I have to wonder what's the point? If I'm not running any social media applications what do I have to fear from google not yet having this level of privacy toggling.


Just because you aren't running Facebook doesn't mean they aren't in your device. Many apps and sites contain Facebook libraries for logins, sharing, advertising, and analytics. If they include any of those, you are automatically sending data back to Facebook. With the way things are currently setup, Facebook can easily tie your activity in one app to your activity in another app. And as we have known for years now, Facebook creates "shadow profiles" for users it can't identify and attempts to tie those shadow profiles to real life people through the actions of their friends on Facebook and its other products.

So even if you use no social media whatsoever, Facebook is still compiling data on you. And this change in iOS will greatly limit their ability to do so (or at least increase the work necessary to accomplish it).

Frankly, it has me considering switching to iOS as well after running Android for over a decade.


It's a really good point; what really got me was Facebook being impossible to remove from my Samsung device (S8+) without rooting. Likely due to their tie-up with Oculus. I find the uncannily appropriate ads being served fairly disturbing, and an invasion of privacy. It's going to be a real challenge transferring data and settings though...


Apple App Store rules (will?) explicitly ban all kinds of tracking without permission. If you try, your app will quickly follow Fortnite to the abyss of banland.

The tracking permission is an OS level popup with strict rules on when, how and how often to display. The default is opt-out, it's up to the app maker to give users the incentive to allow tracking.


It's a simple choice really; being infected with Covid means your body creates thousands of antibodies to fight the virus. Some of those will likely go on and attack your own cells and cause post-covid symptoms. The vaccines only present part of one protein, so not as many antibodies created, less scope for after effects. Key will be seeing when Pfizer and Moderna release their safety data for their testing cohorts. If the effects are minimal, getting the vaccine is a no-brainer.


Even if you could guarantee that there are no unintended consequences to this drug that was developed over a weekend, which you can't, you must still put a great deal of faith in the motives, incentives, and competence of an entire supply chain.

This is not without risk.

There are a lot of unknowns with this brand new vaccine, yet many of us have personal examples of people in our lives shrugging off a bout of Covid with ease. It's not a completely irrational choice to wait for a few years before taking this vaccine.


I think we have Adobe to thank for stagnation in creator tools. There are smaller, harder to find companies doing pieces of the work (i.e. Photopea for Photoshop) and lots of video editing apps that have grown up around Instagram and TikTok. Blender is great for 3d modeling and more.


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