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Remember learning about this from the crossover with fake "bowling alley animations" like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q6MQwsJCA4


Sure, but for me there isn't anything fundamentally different between a LLM reply and a spammers reply / SEO-vomit. Both are low quality useless junk that gives the masquerade of resembling something worth engaging with.

In fact the really bad spammers were already re-using prompts/templates, think of how many of those recipe novellas shared the same beats. "It was my favorite childhood comfort food", "Cooked with my grandma", blah blah blah


Sure, but many people who are bad at art and writing would like AI to make art and writing that's tailored to their tastes and are fine doing laundry and dishes since they're good at that and we have already automated 99% of it with dishwashers and dryers.


The actual washing of the dishes we have automated, not the loading unloading, folding of clothes and organizing them in my closet. I spend at least 1 hour a week on that stuff… ~52hours per year I could be doing art and writing.


1 hour a week means you live alone. Add a partner and a kid or two, and someone will be spending one hour a day on unloading and sorting laundry into right wardrobes.

(On average. Realistically, it's more like a day and a half every two weeks or something).

Chores are terrible life suckers, and I for one subscribe to the notion of eliminating them with technology.


You missed the point.

One of those scenarios is available. The other isn't even being worked on in any serious fashion.

And you definitely don't get to tell people that your product is just fine, they are wrong for wanting something else.


> The other isn't even being worked on in any serious fashion.

It is being worked on, it's just hard:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pycyMUQwiNs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq1QZB5baNw&t=34s

I'm expecting a minimum of 5-10 years to pass between real-time vision AI getting good enough for level-5 autonomous cars and the same stuff fitting into the power envelope available to this kind of domestic robot.


>And you definitely don't get to tell people that your product is just fine, they are wrong for wanting something else.

The original quote does that as well and I only reversed it to give the perspective of increative people :)


> many people who are bad at art and writing

The thing is, you can get better at these. They are just creative skills that get better with practice (much like coding et.al.). And the skill will let you do things you can't do with AI.

> are fine doing laundry and dishes since they're good at that and we have already automated 99% of it with dishwashers and dryers.

With the minimal amount of sarcasm or ill intent possible: what are you doing with that spare time if not improving skills you clearly want the output of?


You can also get better at those skills while also using AI. It’s not really an absolute. You can generate outlines sketches so you can practice shading techniques as a simple example.

There are also those who don’t want to get better at those skills, as those skills are just a temporary medium. For example someone making pottery might be terrible at drawing and creating ideas, so they generate some and then get to working with clay. Essentially, references.


Using AI is not free, in either price nor time. If all the time spent iterating over prompts to get the "right" output was instead spent working on skills, you (the royal you) could get a lot better at drawing/writing right off the bat.

I've lurked through a few AI art boards, and the number of times people will spend dozens if not hundreds of hours iterating through prompts to get a simple anime character just right is mind boggling.

Can AI create references? Certainly. Will they be more detailed than what a potter can create in a similar timeframe? Probably. Will they be accurate to the potter's desire? Probably not.


> Using AI is not free, in either price nor time. If all the time spent iterating over prompts to get the "right" output was instead spent working on skills, you (the royal you) could get a lot better at drawing/writing right off the bat.

Eventually, by practice, a person can get better at art.

I've seen (pre-AI) artists spending dozens of hours just on icons, so the idea of artists spending hundreds of hours perfecting every detail of some character doesn't seem surprising, not even when the specific details really can be done by a better method than repeatedly changing the prompt.

Conversely, even when I use an app on my phone for GenAI, it's making images in perhaps 90 seconds, vs. the entire day that my GCSE* art class gave the students to create the final project — even with the need to have multiple attempts or prompt variations, the AI just gets stuff done too fast for me to learn much in the same time period.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GCSE


Did you really just write most people are fine with doing chores and think that they are good at them?


To me it says "Look at all this stuff you can do with an ipad now, and in a thinner form factor. It used to take a room full of stuff to do this. Isn't that awesome?".

You might not be angry but you're using pretty malicious language to assign intent to the ad that doesn't seem present to me.


This is interesting to me, do you know any articles about this? I feel when I put off exercise until later in the evening(after 7pm) that I often get poorer quality sleep, but I'd be surprised if working out at 6am vs. lunchtime would make that much a difference.


I used to have to work out late at night (like 8-10pm), and found that 30+ mins of low intensity cardio and a long period of relaxed stretching after the workout helped.


I mean.. thats the whole job for the manager? Through performance reviews and keeping track of the work their team is doing. If the senior is actually "unblocking projects" then it should be apparent.

Project not making progress => senior gets involved => project making progress. Or senior gets involved and some architecture decision gets changed to alleviate some risk.

If the senior is doing this but its a visibility problem, then it may suck but they also need to self-advocate if the manager isn't proactively keeping track of their team(like they are supposed to be getting paid to).


> I mean.. thats the whole job for the manager?

Sure, that's in management's wheelhouse....but really, have you never felt like your contributions to the team were undervalued? Or whether somebody else's contributions were overvalued?

> hey also need to self-advocate if the manager isn't proactively keeping track

Have you ever tried doing this? How did it work for ya? In my experience, its not a good idea to get yourself in a place where for you to be right, management has to be wrong. That's not a fight you are going to win.


As someone who runs a small discussion forum its a great way for people who like to spam CSAM, malware, and other stuff I don't want in a way that gets past filters.

I think a conservative estimate of link shorteners usage is that 99% of cases are used by bad actors, and if they would all die out my life would be a lot easier. But, every week it seems some new one pops up and theres a new wave of spam to deal with.

At least thanks to this post I can add a new one to the filters before a wave of spam, so yay?


For who? Certainly not for the person paying.


>their car pays less rent per sqft than they do

This shouldn't be surprising though. Cars don't need heating or cooling or sewage or a roof or ...


They often get most of that with a garage. No sewage is needed, though runoff from parking should really be treated before being dumped into waterways.


Yes, I think I'd be fine weeding out people who can't read a social situation and decide to traumadump to their future coworkers.


So the interviewee is stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Between the need to have a job to survive, and the need to appease some self-important middle manager who took it upon them to perform a psych eval, with zero credentials, while controlling the future of the candidates, and their ability to put food on the table.

Kindly, make your self as visible as possible so that I know to avoid you.


Exactly. I felt intense revulsion reading GP’s comment. Collaborating in a team where there’s zero concern for people’s life circumstances is a no-go. It’s impossible to maintain work-life balance when life can’t even be acknowledged.


Like the interviewer probing private traumatic experiences in a largely one-sided interrogation?


Surely you can understand the difference between a voluntary interview and an involuntary interrogation? This is a pretty poor comparison, I think.


I agree, and personally would have no qualms about walking away from an interview I didn't like.

Would you choose to leave and walk out of an interview if you objected to something? how would you feel? Would you feel like you were walking away from an opportunity maybe? What if your situation was less than ideal?

I think you would find that many people don't feel the same independence or freedom that you and I seem to. Especially if they're not already comfortable financially.


"“Tell me about you. If your life was a book, give me the chapter titles from your birth till now.”"

Would you consider an accurate answer to that to be a traumadump? How quickly do you think people can make up happy childhood stories when put on the spot like this?

It is a completely inappropriate question in a job interview.


Nobody is asking anyone to do that. The bias here is that a person with a traumatic past might seem uninteresting precisely because they unlikely going to share as much detail as this interviewer might want.


Ok so how should someone with a traumatic childhood answer questions about their childhood?

You can change the subject or answer very surface-level and be labeled "unengaged" or "socially inept"

You can answer truthfully and be judged for traumadumping

You can make up a fake origin story that fits the interviewer's criteria and be disingenuous


I don't know about you or your story. I hope you're doing well.

I've learned that the majority of people just don't want to hear anything negative or anything that makes them feel sad. If I want to have social, casual friends, I have to wall off parts of my life story.

Thankfully, I have a couple of close friends and family who know the reality and that is enough for me.


that's why i don't care about casual friends. i mean i do have some, but that's because we have some hobby that we share. the people in that group however are all replaceable.

what's not replaceable is deep friendships with people that do care and are open to listen.


I'm really glad I don't live in a country like this.


that's no country. you find these kind of people everywhere. my theory is that the people who don't want to hear those things have not yet dealt with their own traumas (which can take decades).


Remember that we are talking about a job interview here.


Yes. Which is precisely why my childhood is irrelevant.


I agree. I misinterpreted your answer, sorry!


Ok, you seem to have read this ‘social situation’ (more like economic extortion to me) differently to everyone else here.

How would you handle this?


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