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There is no way how to replicate this study. Its not clear what is core of problem. Are models poisoned? Is there problem with search. Sorry but there is no science behind this.


The core of the problem is 'LLM grooming’, mentioned here and also discussed in a Washington Post article making the rounds today on HN: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/04/17/llm-poi....

'This tactic is described as the deliberate deception of datasets that AI models — such as ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, Grok 3, Perplexity and others — train on by flooding them with disinformation.'


I was wondering about this earlier this week. I run a website about a niche topic. Would it be possible to saturate the barely visible web with advice pointing to my website, and influence LLMs as a result?

By that I mean creating tons of spam content in places that LLMs learn from but that humans ignore.


The more obscure the topic the easier is would be.


Great! I was just thinking how SEO wasn't sufficiently spammy and destructive.


Agreed.


Garbage in, garbage out. If you don't filter Russian prop from your training data, your chatbot will by definition peddle Russian prop. Anyone who does not think so can't understand how LLMs work.


Journalism is about reporting facts and observations, not deconstructing problems or producing hypotheses. If you're looking for science, the news media isn't the right place.


Articel about this experiment https://www-investigace-cz.translate.goog/ai-chatgpt-manipul... (in Czech, translated by Google Translate)


I think combining Saussure and the LLM is a great idea.


Right now I'm trying Vicuna 13b on a MacbookAir M1, 16GB and it's extremely slow. 7b is ok.


I have the Air too. It's thermal throttled. Try someone's M1 Pro, or the Mac Mini. Also make sure you're using the GPU (I'm not sure but AFAIK these models can run on CPU too?).

People at my employer use maxxed out Macbook Pro M2 for their ML research needs and say you can't get better performance for that price (in a laptop).


Nice idea to understand chess moves as policy. And the data from Lichess and other servers can be quite interesting.


True.


I am not the owner of this project, but from my point of view this is interesting way how to organize ideas.


Btw: interesting comparison between Facebook and Google data https://arxiv.org/pdf/2007.07095.pdf


Brexit is pure political decision in Carl Smitt sense and there is just weak connection to price. Unfortunately.



I recommend a couple of books from around the peak of edge-notched punched-card use:

Casey, Perry, Berry, and Kent, "Punched cards; their applications to science and industry", 2nd ed. (1958), https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/001163217 .

Bourne, C. P. "Methods of Information Handling" (1963), https://www.worldcat.org/title/methods-of-information-handli...

Here are the cards I made a few years back - https://twitter.com/nathanbroon/status/750465911241502721 .


wow, thnx.


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