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I agree 100%. I see this as the real advantage of boot over leiningen, beyond just generally being less "magical". Scripting has fundamentally changed the way I approach clojure projects.


You can put a sift task before the watch.


Now you know how I feel.


> I would argue that cultural change has to also start from the top.

This is where the "breathing room" comes in. I think that fostering an environment where people are free to organize themselves without edicts and policy produces overall better processes (and ultimately better quality).

I think it's OK for management to lay a framework, provide a particular kind of training, but it's best to provide goals that forward the company, step back and let the people closest to the work decide the best way to achieve them.


I don't want to take away from your point, but you touched on security - I mentioned it because it was a constant pain point for both myself and for our teams. Like operations, it's something you can be good at on a superficial level, and do OK for most things, but really getting it and being good at it takes experience and time.

I don't think it came through in my post, but having a security expert (or any specialist) in the mix can be a huge help in making the product better - I know this from personal experience - you just have to make sure they're integrated, challenged, and respected in the group.


I switched back to the "2010" theme, hopefully people will have a better reading experience now. Thanks for letting me know (letting me know in private without the snark would have been better, but beggars can't be choosers, so I'll take what I can get).


When you install the tool you can name it whatever you want. I have qualms about "just download this binary and execute it, trust me" installation methods, but the advantage is you can put it wherever, and name it whatever suits your system.

I recommend naming it 'unicorn-slomp'. Or 'mustash-cash-stash' - but you can pick your own cartoons to make a reference to, you are totally empowered here.


Better if the canonical name was just set in a sensible way by its proprietors...


The biggest thing that grabbed me about boot was the scripting capability. To be able to build concise little applications - 'complete', 'real' applications that can be distributed and deployed - is very freeing. The point of the article was to illustrate how you can get running quickly using that feature and logically evolve into "serious" project-based work as needed.

Ultimately there's more to being productive as a beginner than using the REPL.


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