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The bill's text seems to specify "App Stores" to those limited to "users of a computer, a mobile device, or any other general purpose computing device".

Does anyone if this can possibly apply to video game consoles? A wasteful amount of computing is locked behind these consoles and it would be great to see open access come to these platforms as well. Another concern is whether Android and iOS can get out of this bill by arguing themselves to be similar entertainment devices.


> Another concern is whether Android and iOS can get out of this bill by arguing themselves to be similar entertainment devices.

Almost certainly covered by "a mobile device"


then I suppose Nintendo Switches are also "mobile devices" - it would help if this bill had any definition whatsoever of "mobile device" and "general purpose computing device". It's a PR fluff piece and not even the initial version of the bill that will be submitted to congress.


That's exactly why I wasn't sure what would be included in the bill.


I think what the commenter was referring to was with type of discussion than the nature of the post.


The comment you responded to responded to the comment it responded to.


Aren't physical disks also liable to give Sony and Microsoft a cut?


Do physical disks come with "you cant sell me at less" restrictions like Apple enforces? With "you can't use any payment store other than apple"?

The number of restrictions on top of Apples cut is what makes the difference. The mafia wishes they could enforce the same restrictions. Apple makes them look reasonable.


I'm surprised it took this long for Vivaldi Mail to come out. I believe it was teased relatively early on in Vivaldi's life although I don't envy the developers that had to work with IMAP.

I am glad to see that some love given to RSS in a browser since it's been marginalized in all mainstream browsers. It's frustrating to see a refuge of decentralized media consumption be thrown away considering privacy concerns.

I am not the biggest fan of the licensing policy along with the inclusion of a third party translating service but I welcome any competition to the market.


For IMAP they seem to use emailjs-imap-client that is written by myself for Whiteout.io a long time ago. IMAP command tags are still prefixed with `W` that would stand for [W]hiteout. Nice to see my old code being useful :D


The translation service is hosted at Vivaldi


I'm not aware of any spyware in the browser.

I believe the source is online but not licensed under a free license (Someone is free to correct me on that).


The browser engine, being a Chromium variant, is open-sourced. The source code for the UI is not available under an open source license it seems: https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/privacy/is-vivaldi-open-sou...



Isn't it disingenuous to say it's stealing? From my perspective, I would be exchanging my data with the services provided and if I have a problem with the level of data collection I can always stop using the service and delete my account. I'm sure there are services today that are useful to me that are not possible without data monetization.


It's a question of degree, I don't inherently mind being advertised too or getting targeted advertisements. I do mind having my entire location history known by many parties.

I can get the former largely without the latter. I am concerned when a random app has access to the latter because they feel entitled to collect it by virtue of installation.



Would a Nextcloud instance work?


I've checked out Nextcloud a few times, but it really needs a sizeable and trustworthy brand that would host it for you, allow you to point a custom domain at it, and provide zero config email/calendering out of the box.

I'd trust Mozilla.


I don't think the Pocket was owned by Mozilla when they announced their integration. Looking it up, it looks like they bought it 2 years after the initial announcement so I can see it being controversial.


A source on recent press expulsions in China.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/business/media/china-expe...


And the US expelled chinese journalists as well

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/02/washington-sla...

Of course we play it off as being "fair" and setting quotas.


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