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Okay what problems in the whole ecosystem do you mean?

You stated your opinion, but you forgot to add your reasoning.


What this guy said basically: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33820597


I’m still not sure how this describes a getting worse scenario.

The dumb crypto stuff has been there since the beginning and hasn’t changed much at all.

I see them adding products like search and it seems like Brave is improving.

I think it’s better than Chrome for the ad blocking. It’s better than FireFox for performance.


No they don't. They don't replace ads, that's a lie, stop repeating it here please.

The Brave rewards are system OS text notifications that you can OPT IN to.

In no way do they replace banner ads on websites.


They could have meant when Brave swapped affiliate links before the backlash had them backtrack. Which was a wild thing to do. Blocking ads in your browser while charging to not show ads is also pretty wild. Why doesn’t their ad blocker block their ads?


They didn't replace affiliate links. They had a feature similar to Firefox Suggest or whatever's in Chrome/Edge nowadays I think. They had a deal with eg. Binance, and if you typed Binance in the address bar, their Binance promo would show up as one of the results.

They had a bug in it where if you typed a valid URL (eg. binance.us) it'd still give the sponsored link as an autocomplete which it shouldn't have. That bug stood for one day, if memory serves, and the feature was turned off by default.


You're wrong on "refgate", see https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1360780527100338177.

We do block our own search ads if Brave Shields is set to Aggressive mode, same as with other search engines and UGC social platforms.

What else you got?


Oh wow. So much time had passed since that. I remember seeing the details after I had made the negative connection between Brave and “refgate”. Especially the HN thread at the time was chaotic. That negative connotation never left.

Wish I could edit or delete my post. Sorry.


I doubt that. They said replace ads, not add affiliates, those are different words entirely. The "ad replacing" is a common lie.

Just don't use Brave search, the separate product. Or you know, add the blocking rules yourself to the ad blocker, that works. Or you know, pay the $3 dollars to support the thing you use.

Most of the people complaining here don't actually care about this. This is all just a proxy war to go against Eich for his beliefs. It happens every Brave thread, pretty transparent and pathetic.


> This is all just a proxy war to go against Eich for his beliefs.

Of course. Just like I war against your beliefs, whatever they may be. I war against all the beliefs.


Maybe they never activated it, but they certainly planned to do so: https://brave.com/braves-response-to-the-naa-a-better-deal-f...

I didn’t follow up on details on this, so I guess they changed their plans, that still tells me what they think about ads.


Replacement doesn't imply a reuse of a specific location. Taking an ad out your browser and placing a different ad on your desktop is still replacement. Do you really not understand that advertising isn't about space in physical world, but about space in your mind? What brave does is absolutely replacement. They replace a bit of light that was emanating from one part of your device's screen to invade your attention to make some other party money with a bit of light that emanates from a different part of your device's screen to invade your attention to make them money. How in the world is that not "replacement"?


Brave has a built in adblocker for the user that is on by default.

Brave also has a rewards program the user can opt-in to get scheduled text notifications on their system.

I could see your point somewhat if their rewards system was opt-out or tied to whether the adblocker was on, but it's not.


Hi Asa, macOS dictionary says

re·place /rəˈplās/

verb

1. take the place of. "Ian's smile was replaced by a frown" 2. put (something) back in a previous place or position. "he drained his glass and replaced it on the bar"

Notice the use of place and position. If you say we "replace ads", I think you are misusing the word replace. I hope you won't from here on, because we definitely still get smeared with the lie that we replace ads in-situ in publisher pages.


It's not really sudden if you know the visa is temporary the entire time.


Temporary does not mean it needs to end up any second.


You should federate it! (ActivityPub support)


Or support the Nostr protocol


1. Grass costs nothing, it's already there and we can't eat it. You have to shred it so it doesn't grow too high anyway.

2. Again, pastures are already there, nothing else is on them.

3. Perfect, that's more jobs, but I know small family farms with 100 head of cattle with no extra ranch hands.

4. Not really, unless they are very large farms, but at very large scales making artificial meet will have challenges too, much more complex than shoveling shit.


> 1. Grass costs nothing, it's already there and we can't eat it. You have to shred it so it doesn't grow too high anyway.

> 2. Again, pastures are already there, nothing else is on them.

We’ve gone way beyond pasture just “being there” to rely on for animal agriculture at the rate we do it. Look at BLM grazing rates which are there to pay for renewing the grassland but to rate limit how many animal graze or the grassland would be destroyed. Amazon in Brazil is also being cut back constantly to create new pasture land

> 3. Perfect, that's more jobs, but I know small family farms with 100 head of cattle with no extra ranch hands.

If doing things inefficiently just to create jobs is a good idea, we might as well ban shovels and backhoes and make everyone dig with spoons


> We’ve gone way beyond pasture just “being there” to rely on for animal agriculture at the rate we do it. Look at BLM grazing rates which are there to pay for renewing the grassland but to rate limit how many animal graze or the grassland would be destroyed. Amazon in Brazil is also being cut back constantly to create new pasture land

A large part of America was already grassland. Many other parts the land aren't great, but cattle can still graze over it even with really sparse or dry vegetation.

> If doing things inefficiently just to create jobs is a good idea, we might as well ban shovels and backhoes and make everyone dig with spoons

I'm talking about families raising cattle on their private land and continuing to do so, not about banning shovels, backhoes, or meat.


>A large part of America was already grassland. Many other parts the land aren't great, but cattle can still graze over it even with really sparse or dry vegetation.

a large part of America was already grassland, but that doesn't mean it can handle infinite herds, hence the BLM grazing fees[1]. This is also ignoring the fact that I was referring to pasture land globally when I included references to the Amazon.

>I'm talking about families raising cattle on their private land and continuing to do so, not about banning shovels, backhoes, or meat.

Private land means nothing when you say "Perfect, that's more jobs". You should talk about how inefficiency is acceptable if it spreads work across more small businesses then, and I will argue with you on that point. I care 0% about family's keeping their small businesses together if it means the rest of us have high prices. If those families take more money to create the same amount of food as a large scale farm, then I give zero shits if they lose the family farm. I would prefer that an enterprise takes over, produces food at a lower cost, and then sells me food at that lower cost due to the competition that capitalism causes.

Could you please explain to me why I should care about the family farm asking for my tax dollars to subsidize them while they complain that my liberal lifestyle is unacceptable and should be prevented by law?

[1]https://www.blm.gov/press-release/blm-and-forest-service-ann...


Well go ahead, provide the best car for comparison out of your list of "a lot of cars".

Then we can objectively compare it to the closest Tesla model to it.

That is if that car is even being manufactured at any scale at all...


When the debate is lost slander becomes the tool of the loser...


Where is the slander, and where is the car to compare?

I see you went to my profile to find something to say to me, but nothing to expand on your opinion so we can objectively compare better cars as you suggested originally.

And yes that's why I put that quote in my profile, people will go after the person when they don't want to defend their statements, like you did.


Curious if you have much success with being aggressive and condescending in conversations? I wouldn't even bother discussing anything with you but I saw there are enough answers in the parent comment... so you can read and flamebait there :0)


You're still just talking about me and not about a car to compare to a Tesla.

> A lot of cars released in the last 2 years have similar or better stats. reply

Please provide an example of one of the cars you are talking about.


Na... I am good bro. :o) I would have liked to discuss the topic but certainly not with you.


Never underestimate HN's pettiness and spite!

Now it's mainstream to work on a a cool technology that's been around for awhile!

Oh and everyone can act like they weren't bad mouthing the tech and saying it wasn't going to work before.

Visit any Mastodon thread here before Elon's Twitter and it's nothing but negativity.


well, there's more than one person on this website.

also, a lot of these projects have been on a slow simmer for a long time, and are only just now starting to become complete and interesting.

edit: though it does seem to be true that takahe's initial commit was nov 5 :) and personally i don't consider it complete and interesting yet


Yes there are multiple people here, but the general sentiment was negative among most threads.

Go ahead and look over any Mastodon thread a year ago or before.

Generally it was dismissed with "oh it's too niche" or "moderation will be too difficult".

People ignored the communities already on it and the tech overall.

Only until people got pissy about Elon running Twitter instead of hedge funds did the general sentiment here change.

It wasn't about the tech, and not even about Elon specifically, it was the Twitter safe space got taken away.

But now hopefully the people who want that safe space will isolate themselves in mastodon instances that block all others and we can all live in peace from them.


I suspect you may be surprised which instances get islanded off from the rest of the fedi.

Or rather, which ones already are.


I've been in the mastodon world for longer than the Twitter drama, so I'm well aware.

When you block other instances you realize you are islanding yourself off, right? Not the other way around.

Everyone is federated until you block, so you are isolating yourself from the norm when you block others.

It's not too noticeable as the english speaking instances are small currently, but those who don't want wolfballs and friends, or this or that are more isolated than those who do.

It makes sense that those who want to hide views from others are the outliers. Those who want to be open and allowing of diverse thought are more interoperable.


If the majority of servers federate with each other and block the same servers, wouldn't the larger group be the "not islanded" group?

My argument is that if a server behaves in a way that the majority of large servers block it, then it is islanded, not the others.


So you think sending in humans is the better option?

- REPLYING TO BELOW -

> Why does anyone or anything need to “go in”? There are plenty of other ways to deal with these situations instead of pretending to be Seal Team Six.

Such as? Like a large magnet to pull the guns out of their hand?

Sometimes these situations will only result in shootouts, like busting a drug operation of a gang.

Then you have to go in to protect other citizens. Sending in a robot would then be safer. And it's been done before.

> Working on having less guns would be a start. In terms of "less lethal" pepper spray is usually pretty good

Sure, but that's not today, gangs currently have guns. Drug busts currently have dangers.

(note I don't agree that guns are the problem, if anything everyone should be armed)


There's always not "fighting fire with fire"

Working on having less guns would be a start. In terms of "less lethal" pepper spray is usually pretty good


Have you been pepper sprayed?

It's disorienting but you can still be a very lethal threat under it's effects.

That also assumes the pepper spray works, it's not too windy, you can get within 15ft, suspect isn't running...


Why does anyone or anything need to “go in”? There are plenty of other ways to deal with these situations instead of pretending to be Seal Team Six.


Dead bystanders is usually considered poor form.


Tell that to the Uvalde police department.

Police are concerned with their own lives. They have no duty to protect anybody else’s lives


That's a fixable problem. Police could have a legally mandated ethics code similar to lawyers and fiduciary duty.

I do believe, ethically speaking, Uvalde officers should be criminally charged. There's no legal basis of course.


You're correct, there is no legal basis. In fact, the police have a supreme court ruling which affirms that the police has no legal duty or responsibility to protect anyone. Even when they're given roles that would imply the responsibility (such as serving in a school).

Could we hold police more accountable? Potentially. Will we? Based on historical evidence, no.

And without that accountability, this is just another deadly weapon, one they can and will (again, based on historical evidence) use with impunity.


Are you basing your opinion off of this one web page or...?

They wouldn't need a careers page to know who to hire, generally careers pages are for applicants.


Career pages often list specific positions that are currently hiring. A large company like Twitter will not just have a general catch-all applicant form.

So, given the current environment at Twitter, the parent post you responded to seems to have hit the nail on the head. Give things time and it will get back to normal, and we can expect new opportunities to be posted on some sort of careers page for Twitter.

People are really looking hard for reasons to be negative about Twitter and Musk. This careers page isn't one of them...


My point was you can't gleam any sort of knowledge about what internal employee information they have based on a careers page.

It's all speculation based on nothing of substance. That's why I asked GP to expand on his thought process.


It isn't fan fiction, generally fans don't talk directly with the creators of their process, for years on end.

Socrates pupils listened and discussed his ideas with him directly and very in-depth.

Instead of him writing down statements to be misinterpreted, he instilled his philosophy into many people through direct conversation.


I mean don't get me wrong I'm just having fun, I'm not some socrates-truther but "generally fans don't talk directly with the creators of their process, for years on end" have you met fans? Hell yesterday the entirety of Tumblr decided to invent a fake Scorsese film with memes and slash/fic and fanart and arguments about it's place in his canon. They probably produced more in a day than was written about Socrates in a century.


It's not about how much you produce, it's about how well you knew the reasoning behind the thought.

By talking with the person directly you're able to understand that reasoning much better vs interpretation.


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